New map and quiet/loud zones

One of our (Salon Leobard) members went to Saloon to kindly ask them to lower the volume a little bit half an hour before the hand pan concert. The answer was (paraphrasing) “Ist mir egal.” So clearly there is some room for improvement.

Thank you for your input! It is super valuable to get this feedback right after the event so to take these learnings to the next year. Sound will be a major focus based on input from event participators and neighbors outside of kiez burn.

Please continue to give feedback here so we can, in the year to come, review processes and methods in how to deal with this crucial topic.

Currently there is a discussion about the sound concept for 2021.
If anyone wants to join in, here is the link:

https://talk.kiezburn.org/d/XWu9B5kT/sound-concept-guidelines

I do not think this should be up for a vote, this is not a democracy. The amazing power rangers (@rel, @johannes,...) will kinda need to see how they can squeeze it in and be able to pull it off, or there are other volunteers from the sound camps that could help out etc.

made a separate thread: https://talk.kiezburn.org/d/3eCJs6kF/monitoring-sound-levels so to loop in the responsible ppl.

Thank you for your work - and let´s set up a vote/proposal when you got the numbers. In general its a good information for all the camps to know how long the power will be available.

Interesting, I had no idea... Seems like it is then merely a matter of agreeing beforehand on the rules.

Rocca and Karl are 2 sound guys (Rocca does sound for Zerzura) who volunteered yesterday to help with the measuring of the loudness around the site. Would be good to communicate the sound rules of last year from randy. These are the sound rules of last year: https://loomio-uploads.s3.amazonaws.com/documents/files/000/139/828/original/kiezburnsoundprotocol.pdf (they are pretty cool :D )

@svendudink when will the generators be live for the sound check to be able to take place? I think they got delivered last year Tuesday evening or Wednesday morning. Any idea about this year?

Haha, this comes just in time @waldo @janthomas @danielregev : On Monday, Kai and me did the welfare inventory in my private cellar and guess what: we found the two sound measurement devices. So they are at my place and not in storage, just to let you know.
To give some further info: What you need for the measurement it is basically 3 or maybe 2 people: 1 person on site with a working mobile phone who can be ordered to each sound camp in order to increase or decrease volume of each P.A.. Then 1 Person driving a car to the different villages having a good offline map app on the smartphone (e.g. maps.me) that shows them spots with houses most close to the venue. And finally 1 person with basic knowledge in acoustics performing the measurements which take about 10 minutes at each of the approximately 5 spots (this person would need to know the limit values of decibels that were negotiated with the ordnungsamt). So this takes about 1-2 hours, should be done late afternoon of wednesday or thursday (at a time where no neighbor gets anoyed by a loudness check) . Generally, I could offer to do the measurement again this year, but unfortunately, I will not be on site before Thursday midnightish and this is probably too late. However, I could offer to give somebody who fetches the two devices from my place a crash course in performing the measurements and I could mark the measurements spots we identified last year in a map app on the person's smartphone.

@waldo @janthomas We have in storage devices to measure sound levels, and last year Steffen from Welfare with the help of Joice (can someone invite them to the discussion? I'm failing to do so) volunteered to do a thorough soundcheck + going to the nearby villages to check the sound levels. This was amazing. It requires cooperation from sound-camps, ideally there is 1 person who knows what is agreed during soundcheck and is responsible to communicate it to all DJs (can also mark the bar level on the mixer and communicate not to exceed it).

Regarding Sunday - mo memory tells me that Power team (@relativity, @johannes, @zach) wanted to finish power strike ASAP so they could be ready with all the cables for pickup and not needing to stay on site super late or another day. If it helps the strike situation for Power team, I believe music for strike on the Sunday can be played with a small speaker connected to a device or something similar to what we had in burning camel, oder...? But yeah, anyway communication (and following it ;) ) is always good.