talk.kiezburn.org
Fri 25 Jun 2021 8:56AM

(Cancelled) Human transport in cooperation with Bassliner

S Saskia Public Seen by 137

PROPOSAL CANCELLED FOR THIS YEAR

Proposer:

@Saskia (The Fuzzy Facilitator) - highly enthusiastic Kiez Burn veterana

The advice process

INFO: If this proposal does not go through in 2021, I will still continue to gather info for 2022...

People Roles most affected by this proposal

  • Covid Lead ( @Hanna-Maija (Animal))

  • Tickets ( @Otto , @Jan Thomas )

  • Parking

Information gathered before posting:

I have talked with a sub-set of KORG to check whether this proposal would get an instant veto. When it did not seem like that I continued to gather information from bassliner-people who were present.

Information gathered from post mortem:

Berlin - Kiez rides. were a total of 4 busses (1x 32 @ build saturday, 3x 50 opening day (wed), 1 x 32 seater on friday)

Kiez - Berlin rides. Were a total of 3 x 50 seater on sunday and 1x 32 seater on friday.


People/roles with most knowledge and experience relevant to this proposal:

Old transport leads? Are they still here? Craig, Joy?

The proposal

BACKGROUND

This year there will be no human transport. This is due to covid regulations and shortness of time, mostly. The issue being that people get tested with Schnelltests at Kiez Burn Gate. These tests have a small chance of being false positive (and of course a chance to be correctly positive). If that is the case the whole bus has to return home because of one single positive test. This is a huge risk for everybody involved.


The proposal:

The proposal is to cooperate with Bassliner (https://bassliner.org/de) to provide transport for Kiez Burn.

AFAIK for Nation, Bassliner shuttles with little 8-seat Vans, because NATION has the same policy with quick test at the gate and returning the whole bus. Using smaller vans helps to distribute the risk.

How would this be implemented? 

  • Bassliner charters busses to events and festivals. AFAIK they do it free of charge for the event (usually bassliner people get supporter tickets, tho) and finance themselves through ticket prices for the bus

  • Bassliner would organize the transport in cooperation with the new human transport lead (which would be me, mh)

  • Bassliner has a system set up (simply a code for ticket holders) so only ticket holders can get a ticket for the bus

  • Bassliner requires people to get tested BEFORE they enter the bus. People with positive test result don't even come close to Kiez Burn event

What are the disadvantages of cooperating with bassliner?

  • The aformentioned COVID risk for people in the busses. They take a huge risk to get sent home because of a (false) positive schnelltest at the gate

  • We cooperate with a commercial company outside of Kiez Burn which could hurt principles

  • We do not know whether the deal is attractive to Bssliner or if they are going to try to get their hands on tickets

  • It is a very short time until implementation

What are the advantages of this proposal?

I wish to use this section to talk about COVID measurements and their reasoning. The reason for COVID MEASUREMENTS is to reduce the spread of Covid. Under the current rules, we avoid mass transport because a false positive sents the whole bus back. But what we do in the process is that we let people organize the transport themselves and get tested at the gate earliest. This effectively leads to a situation that facilitates and enables infections among our participants.

People will travel together regardless, using trains and shared cars. They will travel then without getting tested before, sharing enclosed space with others on their way to the side. These others will go through an incubation period (infecting others) if their sitting-close-to-infected-person on the way to side goes unnoticed at the gate when infected person tests positive for covid.

What I want to say is: Do we follow COVID restrictions just for the amt and the paper? Then we should not do the communal transport. But if we have COVID measurements to actually prevent the spread of the disease on our event, a common transport with prior testing (and informed individuals who know about the risk) is a much more effective way to make sure everybody stays healthy and less infected people comes to the event.

Further advantages

  • Doing it with Bassliner gives us an experienced partner who is running busses to festivals and especially during COVID has collected experience with safe bus rides providing them 2020 (!) and 2021 to events like Wilde Möhre, Garbicz etc, without a single reported infection case in the busses

  • Transport is stressful for participants, I personally always relied on the busses and many people have problems because of it

  • It potentially reduces environmental impact by shared travelling (?)

  • It will help people be self reliant, because it is easier for them to take food etc

  • It will reduce the amount of parking space needed

How would be the proposal be implemented?

  1. Gathering information and opinions here

  2. Communicate with old transport lead to gather numbers and facts about the last years

  3. Communicate with Bassliner (monday earliest) about possibilities

  4. Come to an agreement (or not and stay in touch for next year?)

  5. Plan busses and coordinate with parking and gate

  6. Announce busses

  7. ???

Who would implement this proposal?

Myself and whoever wants to help (?)

When would this proposal be implemented?

Timeline

There is no such timeline yet

What would be the cost (time, money, effort, etc.) of this proposal

This is tbc, but ideally it costs nothing? Probably they will ask for a directed ticket tho. IDK what their deal with other events is.

JT

Jan Thomas Fri 25 Jun 2021 9:04AM

If i remember correctly then bassliner has their own system to sell tickets, at least i think i purchased something from them directly in the past. So with a bit of luck there is no ticketing effort on our side!