talk.kiezburn.org
Mon 22 Apr 2019 9:55PM

Only 18% of dreams tokens spent - proposal

W walto Public Seen by 73

Currently, about 18% of tokens were spent.

I would like to propose to do 2 things:
1. extend voting deadline to the 5th of May
2. Send out a personal email to all ticket holders to please remind them to vote, only focused on the dreams platform

Why do I believe this low % to be a problem?
- it is much harder to distill the community's dream token spending preference from such a limited % of participation
- about 80% of our community is not engaging with the artists & dreams, which is a loss to both participation in terms of helping realize projects + a loss in terms of excitement about Kiez Burn.
- participation begets more participation. Once people see our vision alive, see the co-creation happening, they will be more inspired to participate even more.

why extend the deadline?
I believe we made a mistake in placing the deadline voting close date=date last submission dream. This means that people will wait with voting until the last moment.

By extending the voting deadline, we do not have that problem

how to get ppl to vote?
The communicorns are the best ppl for this, so I made a thread there to discuss it: https://talk.kiezburn.org/d/ALZ5ncfi/dream-tokens-getting-ppl-to-vote?fbclid=IwAR20H5gCJl2a3FdMTSj4V8ijwxnyp2x31GRdziX4YiAqaAn21s4p2qIVJzE

DU

Deleted User Tue 23 Apr 2019 2:17PM

Hoarder.

AK

Alex Kaos Tue 23 Apr 2019 11:36AM

I don#t know who decided to extend the Dream Application deadline, but I think that's where the real mistake was. Instead of having 1 week for dream guides to assign themselves and catch up with the radical burocracy of the situation, now it's just a continuing mess of latecomers with half-packed dreams.
On another point, as of the 15th April, NOT ALL DREAMS HAD THE POSSIBILITY FOR MINIMUM FUNDING (the total tokens required for minimum funding of all projects exceeded the Dreams Budget). WE DO NOT NEED ANY MORE DREAMS, and each one added, simply adds complexity to the volunteers trying to support them, on many levels.

My proposal. Close Dream applications immediately. We're already passed the originally agreed deadline (15th April) and do no need any more. Keep the extension for voting until the 5th May, which gives Dream guides the time they need to catch up with all the currenty dreams, and incentivizes voters to now vote. Otherwise everyone is going to hold onto their tokens until the end (a.k.a too late to do anything with them)..

DU

Deleted User Tue 23 Apr 2019 2:18PM

Sounds reasonable. I would suggest next time dream application deadline = start of ticket sales!

S

Saskia Wed 24 Apr 2019 5:17PM

@waldo - I knew there was a reason why I made the facebook post and why I had 15th as the deadline for dreams applications in my books! I knew it wasn't coming from nowhere. @alexxx - did we talk about the deadline for dream application being the 15th at the leads meeting in moabit 2/3 weeks ago?
I was wondering where I got this information from.

BF

Benjamin Föckersperger Tue 23 Apr 2019 2:25PM

Ok, so way forward would be:

  1. Close application for new dreams. Approve all existing asap
  2. Fund the mandatory dreams with the minimum amount of the production budget tokens
  3. Extend token voting deadline until 5.5. & send out email to all participants to remind them to now spend their tokens.
  4. After the deadline distribute all tokens left over into all dreams.

Tokens for dreams that do not reach minimum shall be redistributed?

W

walto Tue 23 Apr 2019 3:45PM

I would not close the application for new dreams, since we communicated end of the month, I feel that needs to be it...It is basically impossible to justify to someone who wants to submit a dream that we closed it, altough before it was communicated differently.

In addition, some dreams still are missing info to be eligible for voting... so I would not grant all dreams a pass on this.

But I will make a quick proposal out of your points, I like them a lot!

W

Poll Created Tue 23 Apr 2019 3:59PM

Address Dreams last-minute issues (extending deadline, infrastructure grants & communication) Closed Wed 24 Apr 2019 5:00PM

Outcome
by walto Thu 25 Apr 2019 8:41AM

We will fund the infrastructure dreams, extend voting deadline till the 5th of may and send a personal email (discussion w/communicorns on how to send that email- feel free to join)

We have about 20% participation rate in voting on the dreams platform. In addition, people are confused about infrastructure dreams (is it funded by KBORG or not?).

Because of the above, I propose to:
1. ASAP fund the infrastructure dreams with the amount of the production budget tokens previously agreed & communicated (more info)
2. Extend token voting deadline until 5th of May
3. Send out a personal email to all ticket holders to please remind them to vote (discussion w/communicorns - feel free to join)

Discussions regarding unspent token distribution - this proposal does not cover this

Results

Results Option % of points Voters
Agree 89.5% 17 JH CK MM A BF P V SL JB DU G DR AK W S H M
Abstain 0.0% 0  
Disagree 10.5% 2 DU DU
Block 0.0% 0  
Undecided 0% 50 L B RF F B EM KI E AC C VF K Ø O K RN T EL M TS

19 of 69 people have participated (27%)

DR

Daniel Regev
Agree
Tue 23 Apr 2019 4:05PM

I agree, but only if there is a way not to send this email to people who already voted. I hate spam...

M

Mareike
Agree
Tue 23 Apr 2019 4:07PM

  1. YES! 2. Not too sure. But as there is 1st May in that week i guess not a lot of buying materials and building and making will happen anyway..? 3. YES!
JB

Joice Biazoto
Agree
Tue 23 Apr 2019 4:21PM

Good proposals - I would supplement with a FB campaign once all the details are clear

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