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Mon 19 Jul 2021 10:29AM

Site Updates

C Cris Public Seen by 152

On the weekend July 16-18th some of us went to check out the Freiland Sommerfest and used the opportunity to gather some information and last updates about the condition of the Gelände.

Below, the list of all the info we gathered.

@Mareike @Franzi @Sven Dudink @Jack @Bee @Diarmaid I'm just opening the thread here and writing down what I remember. Please, add/correct whatever I might be missing. Thank you!

Tagging everyone who could have interest in this updates. Please, add whoever may be missing. Tagging @Erin Jeavons-Fellows for Kieze updates. Tagging @Veroca R. Sala because she will find good reasons to be tagged here, mostly, further tagging :)

If you have questions, ask them in this thread and let's hope we have the answers! :)

Here some PICTURES (please, add yours)

  • Toilets @Jack

    • Freiland installed 10 compost toilets, mostly in groups of 3. They come with 2 urinals each on one side and a hand washing station on the other. They are self built and can be moved. The solid waste goes into a big regular wheelie rubbish bin that is exchanged when full. The liquid waste flows through pipes from the urinal and the bottom of the wheelie bin into a barrel that is located lower in the ground (gravity). the barrel has a pump at the bottom to pump out the fluid into a big 1000L IBC container.

  • Water @Sven Dudink

    • The following areas have a hose with running water:

      • Deine Mudda @Max (is this you?)

      • Underworld @Annette

      • Zerzura / Prometheans @Professor Kaos

      • Blanket Fort / Kunst Kuns / Kinky Camp @Erin Jeavons-Fellows

      • The top of the hill.

  • Grey Water @Friso (see pics)

    • They built a septic tank by the entrance to Nubicuculia to gather the water form the showers by Drug Sluts.

  • Showers @Major Tom

    • The shower container from Drug Sluts/Deine Mudda were completely restored, with running water and working!

    • The showers from the top of the hill weren't in use. No water connexion, trashy state, most of the showers weren't complete.

  • New Structures @Natacha Kromatik (see pics)

    • In the Prometheans Area there were some new structures! @Professor Kaos

      • a cool DJ booth! aprox 5x6,5m platform with a 2x2,5m DJ booth area.

      • Distance between poles approx 8-9m to center. 12m between the outside posts. 4 posts in total.

      • The central post got a nice wooden bench all around it.

    • Between Prometheans and Pirates there's a big new structure: a rhombus/boat shaped bar! 6,5 x 6,5 m

    • By Drug Sluts, in front of the shower container, there's a trashy camper van with bio-hazard! A bees colony found it to be a good place to build their bee-hive!

  • Safety check (see pics)

    • The staircase down to Prometheans is new!

    • The staircase down to Blanket Fort/Kinky Camp/Kunst Kunts is repaired.

    • The staircase down to Underworld is in good condition.

    • The trash in Nubicuculia was still there! A big pile of wood, and the 2 old cars :/ Who's the Nubicuculia Kiez Lead? @Roko

      • the pile of wood is fine, some camps will take this as building material

      • they will clear up the trash, the car has been moved on top of one container and will stay there – we need to check if its needs to be secured @Cris

    • Electric fences around the edge of site (signs needed to warn folk? @Ancka )

  • Gate & Covid @Mareike @Hanna-Maija (Animal) @Jan-Christian Kaspareit (see pics)

    • They organized the Gate in 4 stations: check in (ticket, ID and corona schnelltest check) Test Tent, Waiting for the results-tent, QR ticket code scanning and wristband check.

    • At the first check in tent, you'd get a "Geländepass", with your personal data and the result of every test. Everyone was requested to keep this with them at all times and don't

    • They had 2 test stations, one at Gate, which closed on Saturday in the afternoon, and one close to the Tool House, for the "after 24 hours tests". You would get a simple "paper" wristband after your negative test, in a different color everyday.

    • They had an online system of booking slots for the test, to avoid concentrations. Both on the day of arrival and for the consecutive tests after 24 hours. Although, no one was really checking this and people would arrive more or less whenever.

    • You need a phone with reception to register with your personal details and receive the result of your test.

    • If you leave the Gelände, eben for some minutes, you have to get tested again! And security would check!

  • Rangers @Jessie

    • in the Rangers spot there's a big metal container. There's still space for the tent (see pic)

  • Welfare @River Aleks

    • Blankets were picked up from storage and brought back to Berlin (@Bee has them)

  • Cell phone signal

    • Most of us had phone and internet signal in practically every corner! Who had it and who hand't was, to our understanding, quite random.


Some questions answered by Freiland:

  • will the trash, cars and wood pile form Nubicuculia be removed as promised?

    • they will remove it – the wood pile will stay as build material for some camps

    • the car has been moved to the top of a container

  • Is there a way to do the Covid testing without phones? Can we check this with Max? @Jan-Christian Kaspareit

    • Eric from Freiland suggested us to work with somebody else, since communication with Max was a bit difficult. We already checked if it's possible with our Sanitätsdienst (first aid) but unfortunately they are not allowed. If we rely on phones, maybe it's possible that e.g. sound camps provide some sort of charging stations...

  • Clarify and confirm the limits of the free camping and parking area.

    • We can use the "wildflower" area for parking @Cairn (Clément)

  • What do freiland do with the “black water” (urine) and the solid waste (shit) after the event?

    • Their shitbox system separates both. They are removing feces themselves, there is a certain area dedicated to get rid of this stuff (Klärgrube). We would need a big Frontlader car and lots of dedicated shit ninjas, so it's easier to ask an external company. @Jack

  • How much volume did they fill (both waste types), how did they dispose of it and how much does it cost? Answer: See toilet thread

  • How many watercubes for the fire department can freiland give us? They didn't know while spark.

  • Will grass area (old kinder kiez) be trimmed before out event?

    • yes

  • Did Frieland own the red / yellow stretch tents & tables and chairs from their Sommerfest? Can we rent from them or get the details of who they rent from?

    • no, we asked for contact details

  • Where they got their hand sanitiser? Some local dealer? We need 200 litres and would make no sense drive it from Berlin

  • Where was their Covid test crew staying? We need to provide them accomodation and have options but quite far away.

  • Will anything be done with the showers on the hill or are these out of use for this year?

    • no showers on the hill, only Deine Mudda area

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Bee Thu 29 Jul 2021 5:34PM

@Kate @Annette @Jan Thomas

Any info on the covid equipment from Freiland? :) (also tagging @Hanna-Maija (Animal))

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Cairn (Clément) Thu 22 Jul 2021 10:29AM

A question regarding the showers at Drug Sluts / Deine Mudda, is there still 2 containers and a campervan there, or was the campervan moved?

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Caroline Wed 21 Jul 2021 8:14AM

Hola !

I'm updating the survival guide and i would like to inform people about the "only 6 shower" situation so they can plan accordingly.

Keeping people clean-ish is probably important this year with corona.

If we encourage people to bring their own shower, what should we do about grey water ? It' difficult to collect it. Can we ask people to dig a little trench to avoid to mud the whole camp? Or should showers be banned because of grey water ?

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Roko Mon 19 Jul 2021 9:44PM

another question. did freiland get any sound complaints? because they use our old zerzurian spot, which was not said to be suited for sound, which is why we moved..

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Roko Mon 19 Jul 2021 8:08PM

did they cut the grass at nubicuculia? also promised. (i saw the pictures, didnt look like they cut everything...)

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Purzel Mon 19 Jul 2021 7:26PM

Thank you lovelies for the research ❤

Did you get to count the water cubes for me?

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Mareike Mon 19 Jul 2021 3:46PM

Thanks! I tagged JCK for the Covid Testing Updates and open questions regarding the phones.

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Cairn (Clément) Mon 19 Jul 2021 11:19AM

Regarding the Nubicuculia area, is Freiland going to remove the trash and cars, as they promised?
Tagging @Roko, camp lead of Nubicuculia

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Cairn (Clément) Mon 19 Jul 2021 11:08AM

Thank you for the updates!
Looking forward to see all the pictures of the different areas that were taken, will be very useful for the camps planning :)

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Alex Kaos Mon 19 Jul 2021 10:38AM

Thank you Cris! Excellent summary.

Can whoever has pictures of the Promethean space please add them? We need to plan our build!!!