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May 31st, 2021 11:24

Covid Corona - Discussion and input thread

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FAQ:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/19Q-6C-fnZUanorG6h97ve7GKK-dpGhzL7fnlta6pfHA/edit?usp=sharing

Kiez Burn 2021 Hygiene Concept:

DE: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ajERHwGr8RZbojW3X_kVnC7qTM2bBpo0ijQ5oeWfvzk/edit?usp=sharing
EN: https://drive.google.com/file/d/10d9hxDjzGE-kTuB7twQAmnuwQ90BLzna/view?usp=sharing

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HOW TO GET VACCINATED IN BERLIN

The Covid team has gathered some tips for those who still are looking to get vaccinated before the Kiez Burn date. You are welcome:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/16L2ro7u85Ad1Pd0rob7nJh0_Ojvxcjq8h9bdF74TscI/edit?usp=sharing

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Kiez Burn Covid Team:

The KB Covid team has been working since the end of 2020 and following the pandemic situation closely. Until the end of June it was not clear at all to us if we would even be able to have the event but now (3 weeks prior to the event) we have finally gotten our Hygienekonzept approved by the Gesundheitsamt and the Covid situation (even though slowly getting more dire again) is likely not going to affect our plans to burn this year! Big cheers to that!

@Hanna-Maija (Animal)
@Julian Finn
@Jan-Christian Kaspareit
Lina
Jo

Hanna-Maija (Animal)

Hanna-Maija (Animal) August 19th, 2021 09:27

A heartfelt THANK YOU from the Kiezburn COVID-Team

The Covid Team wants to thank every single participant who followed our Covid Protocol and got tested accordingly. We are happy to announce we did not record a single positive case during the event! All in all we can say that the testing efforts and the testing station were a success and functioned surprisingly well despite of last minute changes and complications with the booking system. This is largely thanks to you all for your patience and support. 

In the following days please listen to your body and get tested if you feel even slight symptoms. We would like to ask you to report any positive cases in the next 10 days to us so we will be aware if there was an outbreak at the event. All the reports will be treated with utmost confidentiality and no action will be taken without consulting with the reporting person. If you feel uncomfortable reporting yourself you may also report anonymously or ask a friend to report for you.

You can send a report here: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSe0X30KjkE64IwqGrMwSJIRBH1GH-1c5pwRA58VDelJnO2qFg/viewform?usp=sf_link

If you have any feedback please post it here to record it for the future:

Looking forward to burning with you again soon 🔥



Christine!

Christine! August 15th, 2021 07:06

I'm currently hopping festival, and I've given this some thought.

I'm leaving Kiez burn where I basically was in a bubble with people who have been tested every day, so a fairly safe environment.

Now I'm traveling between Kiezburn and event B. My traveling interactions are more or less the same as if I were traveling from home.

So the main question is, is my normal everyday life more or less safe then my life at Kiezburn?

And I think I'll have to give credit to the Kiezburn Corona team here, because I do see more exposure risks in my everyday life than at Kiezburn after a week being among daily tested people.

So, one could argue that festival hopping might be safer than going to a festival, resuming normal life and doing the next festival.

I guess it all stands and falls with your ability to self isolate in your home environment, and your actual commitment to actually do so.

Maybe I'm missing something... Like the different form of social interactions at a burn.. yes.. that might be the main thing.. but I'm not convinced about which side of the balance weighs the heaviest.

Niall

Niall August 12th, 2021 16:03

Glad you asked.

So i have several self-tests here, bought early in the hope that I could use them at a venue entry point, wait for the results, and enter. Not so, as understandably impractical. However I can't even use them while being observed in a pharmacy to get a certificate. Instead I need to go to a test centre, ID in hand, and give contact information.

However that's not the end of it. Using the possibility/pretense of forgery, an additional verification step is required.

Whether i have my QR code on paper or an app, all fields contained in the QR are made visible to the verifying app. They are unnecessarily more detailed than simply Name and a thumbs up or down. If i'm using say the Corona-Warn-App I have no way of managing what fields are displayed, again connected to an ID.

There is a fork of the CWA that in addition to replacing the proprietary Google libraries with Open Source versions, has what's known as verifiable builds. This allows you to verify that the code on the github matches what's running on your phone. This is only used by a tiny amount of geeks (like me, though not anymore as i'm vaccinated, and this is nonsense)

The verification app that reads all the data has no such assurances, I don't even know what verification app is being used, never mind what it then does with the data.

There are guidelines that such apps should not record this information, but there are also EU laws stating we shouldn't be using this technology beyond our borders in the first place, so given this is happening regardless I don't have much faith in either.

So here we have not just your browser or your IP connected to a website or a download, but a verifiable connection between your identity and a place in time. Granted what i'm discussing here is probably an unlikely occurrence, for now, but given time rogue apps are enivitable.

Imagine this on a large scale. It's not just a marketing data mining issue, but due to the connection to your health records (likely to increase in scope) has implications towards insurance too.

Software of this importance needs to be designed with a future tyrannical government in mind. Although this is probably the best in class with the exception of what I know about the Swiss app, it's just not good enough. It's not what I associate with a free society, certainly not a burn, and if tests for the vaccinated are required in Germany post October 10 when they're no longer free, then either the (mostly lunatic) Querdenken demos need to multiply their numbers by 10, or i'm sadly out of here.

PS: Here's why at least PCR makes no sense:

https://talk.kiezburn.org/d/zlSR6hAY/covid-corona-discussion-and-input-thread/203

Matt

Matt August 12th, 2021 14:47

Out of pure academic interest (I agree with you broadly, but the meat of the issue is beside the point at this stage — I’m on site and complying with da rulez notwithstanding what I think of some of them) — what’s with the emphasis on visual observation of a physical Impfpass? What’s wrong with an electronic inspection of a digital Impfpass?

Niall

Niall August 12th, 2021 13:51

Oh i'm not going, so not everyone, lol. Anything that requires more than a visual observation of my physical Impfpass or Antigen self-test is a No from me. Have fun though!

CJ Yetman

CJ Yetman August 12th, 2021 13:43

It doesn’t matter what anyone “thinks” about it anymore… the rules are set, approved by the Health Amt, written in the hygiene protocol… everyone follows it, no exceptions, no excuses.

Niall

Niall August 12th, 2021 10:55

PCR detects RNA, it doesn't distinguish between infectious and non-infectious particles.

It tells you you're infected, not that you're infectious.

Since vaccines protect against severe disease, not infection (with the sole exception of HPV) determining whether someone is infected or not post vaccine is meaningless.

The point is you don't get sick, and you don't reproduce enough infectious particles to make others sick.

Niall

Niall August 12th, 2021 10:22

That person was correct. PCR testing vaccinated people makes no sense.

Hanna-Maija (Animal)

Hanna-Maija (Animal) August 7th, 2021 07:55

Hanna-Maija (Animal)

Hanna-Maija (Animal) August 7th, 2021 07:37

Thank you all for contributing <3

Jan-Christian Kaspareit

Jan-Christian Kaspareit August 6th, 2021 22:23

Will post this tomorrow.

Just posted the test link, because that's the next important step. Book your tests.

👤

Anonymous August 6th, 2021 22:20

Caroline

Caroline August 6th, 2021 22:04

The opposite : testing on wednesday are only for builder as other participant will have their other covid test in hand

👤

Anonymous August 6th, 2021 21:57

Mi Go

Mi Go August 6th, 2021 19:21

Yeah, I'm going to guess that "high risk", if it's using infection rate only, means an area with over 200 incidence. The parts of France (in the south) have these very high numbers

https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/3a056fc8839d47969ef59949e9984a71

Personally I think it should be 100, but what do I know :)

Vlad

Vlad August 6th, 2021 19:05

Seems weird, they still higher rates of infection than france, but good to know right :)

Mi Go

Mi Go August 6th, 2021 18:58

btw, Spain, Portugal, and UK are high risk areas as well, I've been wondering why NL was called out specifically?

Caroline

Caroline August 6th, 2021 18:48

@Mi Go Thx, survival guide updated ><

@Vlad maybe post this info on the doc for the next newsletter in the newsletter thread?

Mi Go

Mi Go August 6th, 2021 18:48

@Vlad a quick post to the FB group with the link to the RKI list of variant and high risk countries and some more info:

  • If you are not fully vaccinated for Covid, and

Vlad

Vlad August 6th, 2021 18:40

Jan, dont make me a bad guy, I read, I talk to ppl and I very often see in my camp and camps I know that ppl are completely not aware of many things concerning org of KB and they dont read survival guide, they also dont read newsletters.

Here is the post:

Hey guys,

your corona angels are back again.

As much as we love to see you all coming from all the sweetest parts of the world and reconnecting to the global burner community, we will strictly enforce German government regulations concerning international travellers (also for Urlaubsrückkehrer). If you just arrived from a country which is on a high alert list (https://www.rki.de/DE/Content/InfAZ/N/Neuartiges_Coronavirus/Risikogebiete_neu.html) and did not go through a required procedure (testing on entrance and quarantine - check for exact rules for your country of origin) we will have no choice but to refuse your entrance.


And don't forget spreading corona not only destroys your friends health and your own karma, it might also destroy you legally and financially if you infect somebody while knowingly breaking government's regulations such as a quarantine or test-duty.

Mi Go

Mi Go August 6th, 2021 18:37

FWIW, According to this, The Netherlands is no longer on the list, but now many parts of France are.

https://www.rki.de/DE/Content/InfAZ/N/Neuartiges_Coronavirus/Transport/Archiv_Risikogebiete/Risikogebiete_aktuell_en.pdf

Jan-Christian Kaspareit

Jan-Christian Kaspareit August 6th, 2021 18:24

Makes sense. Will happen. It's just also a ton of work right now and lots of shit to get done. Feel free to prepare a post.

Basically legal stuff will always trump our Hygienekonzept.

Trust me, there is a lot of shit happening behind the scenes and a lot of people are dedicated days and weeks of work to make Kiez Burn happen.

All these people are volunteers though. So not everything will always be perfect and on time.

And please enter the discussion sooner next year 👍 and also follow up on the discussion. Tons of hours went into Corona shit.

Vlad

Vlad August 6th, 2021 18:20

I think if you already have such a strong corona policy communicating it more clearly would avoid conflicts at the gate most definetely. Probably also makes sense to do it on FB with all the tickets changing hands en mass right now to ppl who will never get a newsletter :_(

Vlad

Vlad August 6th, 2021 18:18

Just checked on the list apparently France is on it since yesterday as many other countries, crazy.

Vlad

Vlad August 6th, 2021 18:17

So you cannot co-create on talk, where else should i do it? And in what capacity? :)

A

Ale August 6th, 2021 18:14

Didn’t seem like questions but a lot of „hints“ and trying to co-create without co-creating to me. If you’re that involved already, it seems very sad to only have you involved so late in the game and on such little capacity as here on talk only. 😊

Jan-Christian Kaspareit

Jan-Christian Kaspareit August 6th, 2021 18:14

Obviously you are not allowed to enter Kiez Burn, if you are not allowed to leave quarantine. We will try to check as good as possible, but in reality it will be tough to check everyone's quarantine story.

A list of high risk countries will be available at the gate.

If someone sneaks into Kiez Burn even though that person should have been quarantined and infects a lot of burners this person will get into serious legal trouble.

Vlad

Vlad August 6th, 2021 18:09

Unless a person takes a lead role no questions can be asked? Or what is your point exactly?

A

Ale August 6th, 2021 18:02

Good to see you’re onto that topic Vlad. I’m sure gate will be happy to have you with them with your well thought out concept and as a Lead/Realizer of checking if people quarantined correctly. :)

I sure as hell wouldn’t feel comfortable to make such difficult choices alone or to just only write about it on the Internet, when people have been sweating for weeks about that stuff. ❤️ (Leaving Love here)

Vlad

Vlad August 6th, 2021 17:55

Any chance you will metion it in the official communication that you will actively enforce government covid policies for international travellers.

Vlad

Vlad August 6th, 2021 17:53

That is nice, but there is a difference between do i have to quaranteen or we are going to check if you did :)

Julian Finn

Julian Finn August 6th, 2021 17:52

thanks for the reminder :)

Julian Finn

Julian Finn August 6th, 2021 17:52

yeah, tough luck. if we find these people, we are not going to let them on site. thanks for the reminder, gate will specifically instructed to check these things.

Vlad

Vlad August 6th, 2021 17:51

Well i am with you on it, but I am reading a lot of messages like "coming straight from indonesia caus emy trip was cut short because of corona and would love to go to burn right away" and of this kind. Also I know of a lot of ppl who festival hopping through europe and going directly to KB.

I have a feeling that official government regulations are not followed, controlled or that ppl are even aware of them.

Caroline

Caroline August 6th, 2021 17:51

@Vlad it is already mentionned in the survival guide (covid section, question "should i quarantine")

Jan-Christian Kaspareit

Jan-Christian Kaspareit August 6th, 2021 17:49

It's the regular stuff you have to enter for any Schnelltest. So yes.

Also it is an official Schnelltest company doing the job. So it's the same info that every other test center wants and handled professionally. Kiez Burn does not have access to this data.

Julian Finn

Julian Finn August 6th, 2021 17:48

We can add something, but also, tbh, radical self-reliance. if you are travelling to another country during these pandemic times, you very well should know what the official regulations in your destination country say. And assuming that a burn might not care about these regulations (and therefore endanger the whole event's existence) is sorta... silly? :D

Vlad

Vlad August 6th, 2021 17:46

Would be great if you mention it the email/survival guide, I presume a lot of tickets might become immediately avaliable :)

Julian Finn

Julian Finn August 6th, 2021 17:44

this is only if you aren't vaccinated. And of course we will check that. Participants coming from high risk areas will have to either show proof of vaccination or very clear proof of quarantine. We are not kidding, nor are we screwing around here.

Caroline

Caroline August 6th, 2021 17:44

FYI quaranteen from NL is mandatory unless you are fully vaccinated... So not for everyone

Vlad

Vlad August 6th, 2021 17:40

Another question relevant for the community: will german corona regulation be inforced at the gate?

For instance all travellers (update: who are not fully vaccinated) from NL should have a mandatory 5 days quaranteen after entering germany, and they have to register an visit with adate of entrance befor ethey enter, will this be controlled? As far as I understand we have quite a bunch of ppl coming straight from NL?

Caroline

Caroline August 6th, 2021 16:37

Hey
As covid ambassador, i will try to make all of my kiez member to book their apointments. Is the info you have to out on your ticket (like birth date and phone number) mandatory? It's not obvious...

Caroline

Caroline August 6th, 2021 16:31

@Hanna-Maija (Animal) @Mareike I've seen that the test center opens at 10h30 on Mittwoch. Roland start operating at 10 so I've told him 9-9h30 for testing. Will there be an exception for him or should I ask him to come later?

Vlad

Vlad August 6th, 2021 06:51

This was misunderstood by me, since I read somewhere on talk that the same company/ppl who provide first help will do the testing, but I guess it changed.

Purzel

Purzel August 5th, 2021 19:09

Only commenting on the medical emergency, not on the math itself.

The test center and first aid is provided by 2 different company's, in case of a medical emergency at the test station, first aid would take over. (The tester themselves often don't have any medical training other than how to do the testing)

Jan-Christian Kaspareit

Jan-Christian Kaspareit August 5th, 2021 14:24

I can see the objections, but the testers already did similar events and think this is appropriate.

So we'll just roll with it for now, I think and in case it doesn't work we can maybe provide some helping hands.

It's a burn. Stuff will figure itself out.

Worst case scenario is that the test center stage is the most popular place. 👍

Hanna-Maija (Animal)

Hanna-Maija (Animal) August 5th, 2021 13:53

The FAQ has been updated!

Hanna-Maija (Animal)

Hanna-Maija (Animal) August 5th, 2021 13:50

COVID AMBASSADORS MEETUP

Each Kiez has nominated a Covid Ambassador. These Ambassadors are invited to a meetup onsite at Deine Mudda camp on

Wednesday 11.8. at 18:00

If you can’t make it send a message to me and we will figure it out!



CJ Yetman

CJ Yetman August 5th, 2021 11:32

And KB has five times as many people as FTE, so expect there will be some conflicts!

Christine!

Christine! August 5th, 2021 11:23

We had a really long talk with someone at gate who didn't want to be tested because he was vaccinated. We did have some speed tests handy and a little quarantine area for people who failed to test prior to coming, regardless of how many times we communicated testing was mandatory. There were more people who needed to be tested on the spot on arrival.

I hope you're right. But, things always go wrong.

Sunniva

Sunniva August 5th, 2021 09:08

Hi all! I had a check-in with @Hanna-Maija (Animal) and made some last minute improvements to the poster this morning. Please use this new version! @Jan-Christian Kaspareit & @Veroca R. Sala 💛

Vlad

Vlad August 5th, 2021 06:15

Question: what are actually the test capacities provided on site?

We have 1000 participants, if a test center operates 10 hours long, test center needs to be able to test 2 ppl a minute. Considering that a test typically takes 5 minutes of a tester's time there should be at least 10 tester's on site to manage this throughput, pls correct me if I am wrong.

If this is not the case corona testing strategy should be adjusted to either reducing the amount of tests (say one test in 2 days) or done in camps.

PS: according to testing experts it is doable with 6 ppl when ppl queue non stop and tester's have some org help :)

Caroline

Caroline August 4th, 2021 20:22

@Meghan hm ah yes.

I misunderstood as well thats why I added this part in the taxi section.

I will remove it soon.

Julian Finn

Julian Finn August 4th, 2021 20:02

daily test at the gate but the first test (on wednesday) has to be brought from another testing station to prevent overload.

Meghan

Meghan August 4th, 2021 20:01

Now that I've read this lovely survival guide, I'm slightly confused; it does mention covid testing at the gate when talking about taxis, but the section about entry requirements only seems to talk about showing proof of a negative test (not an actual test done at the gate before entry is allowed).
Will there actually be testing at the gate, or is that maybe just leftover from a previous version of the covid plan and no longer accurate?

Julian Finn

Julian Finn August 4th, 2021 19:58

oh it will be checked for sure. I just don't believe that anyone would go through the lengths of faking a certificate instead of just getting tested

Christine!

Christine! August 4th, 2021 19:15

Based on the events that caused that massive spike in NL this has happened on a large scale...

Do I expect this to be a problem at KB? No. Would I make that gamble, also no. I mean, I do assume all test data and vaccination data will be checked... this is just in those cases that whatever you are using for that, does not function because of the publisher of the QR code is not recognized..

Veroca R. Sala

Veroca R. Sala August 4th, 2021 18:33

wonderful, added on the newsletter Friday edition as a reminder, already out on Facebook and will do a telegram post with this tomorrow ( and the dogs post which i forgot today, too much going on !!! )

thanks all!

Jan-Christian Kaspareit

Jan-Christian Kaspareit August 4th, 2021 18:05

Thank you so much for compiling the information!

I think it's great to have it on social media and I will add it to the Covid newsletter.

Sunniva

Sunniva August 4th, 2021 18:01

Hi all! I made this poster to spread some more awareness on our safer measures against Corona. I'm in contact with @Mareike to get it printed for the Gate. Where else should it be shared? Social media? @Veroca R. Sala? Added the file as a PDF in printable and shareable resolution so please all just go ahead and use this poster freely as you feel fit!

Julian Finn

Julian Finn August 4th, 2021 16:36

We doubt that anyone in their right mind wants to trick us with a fake rapid-test result. (Srsly, who would do that?). Presenting a document that appears to be from an official testing station is fine.

Christine!

Christine! August 4th, 2021 16:27

Question/Option for the Covid team:
If you guys are gonna scan codes, and some codes don't scan because they are not the right country, you might wanna try the Luxemburgish app for that.. it's called covidcheck.lu Just thought I'd mention the possibility.
I am not sure if it is still going to be a problem... But apparently we had a minor hiccup (luckily gate at FTE was a Luxemburg run operation)

It is also likely there will be some people with traditional QR codes that can be read with any QR code scan app.

Shay Erov

Shay Erov August 4th, 2021 11:30

Thanks for the quick response!
So I'll get one of "Bürgertest" in Gernamy before the event.

Julian Finn

Julian Finn August 4th, 2021 11:28

as per general regulation: you need a certified test. You can, however get this at any "Bürgertest" station throughout the country. They are literally everywhere and they are free, paid by the state.

Shay Erov

Shay Erov August 4th, 2021 11:24

Question regarding the negative Covid tests we have to bring with us to enter the burn.
I read that an Antigen test is enough and there's no need for PCR, which is great...
I'm coming from Switzerland and here I can get a home kit for an antigen test, I was wondering if this should be enough or do we have to do the test in Germany in the various Covid centers...
As I am an Israeli and not an EU/Shengen resident, it might be harder (and more expensive) to get the tests in Germany...
Thanks!

Mi Go

Mi Go August 4th, 2021 09:20

Thanks both for your quick answers. I know things are hectic now.

Hanna-Maija (Animal)

Hanna-Maija (Animal) August 4th, 2021 08:48

I agree with Michael 100%. It's pandemic, the numbers are on the rise again. I don't think we should promote festival hopping at this stage. If someone does, we can't of course stop this but enabling it by offering per test doesn't sound like a responsible act we want to encourage.

Jan-Christian Kaspareit

Jan-Christian Kaspareit August 3rd, 2021 21:48

Thanks for the input. I just reacted on the request and didn't really think it through.

As of now we don't have PCR testing on site and I will check tomorrow if it is possible to get a PCR test machine to handle positive Schnelltests (rapid test).

But I am with you that everyone should really think about the possibility of an infection and reduce contacts the days after the burn probably.

Mi Go

Mi Go August 3rd, 2021 21:38

Dear KB Covid team,

I want to register a strong concern. The possibility was raised in a thread on the other platform, of offering PCR tests on-site without a positive rapid test - in particular, to enable Kiez Burners to have a negative PCR test result to gain entry to Northern Lights, which begins the day after Kiez Burn.

I seriously doubt the NL covid protocols are designed to account for people getting such an 'entry PCR' during another Burn. Then it's a snapshot before continuing to Burn, and then travel, then expose NL to whatever came in between.

If anything the community should be encouraging reduced contacts after Kiez Burn, not the exact opposite. Using resources to enable it, seems contrary to principles of civic responsibility, specifically towards Northern Lights.

I think it should be transparent whether PCR tests of this kind will be made available and when.

@Hanna-Maija (Animal) @Julian Finn @Jan-Christian Kaspareit

Jan-Christian Kaspareit

Jan-Christian Kaspareit August 3rd, 2021 16:00

Thank you so much! I read a lot of documents the remaining weeks, but didn't make it through the survival guide... Thanks for the update!

Caroline

Caroline August 3rd, 2021 10:49

Hmm, i'm not sure anybody from covid team read the survival guide but i basically took most important question from FAQ and added "you need a negative covid test to enter" here and there

So i think it's okay :)

Hanna-Maija (Animal)

Hanna-Maija (Animal) August 2nd, 2021 19:57

Thank you Sunniva! I added this (1) to the FAQ! It should also be in the next newsletter

If you feel creative and want to come up with a design I will say big YES!!! :) <3

Hanna-Maija (Animal)

Hanna-Maija (Animal) August 2nd, 2021 19:54

Hi, is this matter sorted or do I still need to check?

Hanna-Maija (Animal)

Hanna-Maija (Animal) August 2nd, 2021 19:53

I am not sure yet. Will let you know as soon as I do!

Caroline

Caroline August 2nd, 2021 11:00

Awsome, will tell him that

Mareike

Mareike August 2nd, 2021 10:22

yes just spoke to @Hanna-Maija (Animal) and we would both agree to propose testing to him before and ffp2 mask wearing in the car:)

Caroline

Caroline August 2nd, 2021 10:11

@Meghan yes he does. Phone number in the survival guide

Meghan

Meghan August 2nd, 2021 10:07

If he were offering rides during build, like on Monday, I'd gratefully use that service!

Caroline

Caroline August 2nd, 2021 09:54

A freiland's neighbor (Roland) is organising a shuttle service from Sternfeld to kiez burn.

I'm in contact with him and he will probably carry more than 160 people on the 11th.

The ride is short and i'll ask him to keep the windows open

Should we ask him to get tested at the gate in the morning of the 11th (around 9, 9h30) ?

He will probably have rides on the other days. Should i propose him everyday?

@Hanna-Maija (Animal) @Mareike

Thanks a lot !

Sunniva

Sunniva August 2nd, 2021 08:38

Dear @Hanna-Maija (Animal), @Julian Finn & @Jan-Christian Kaspareit: Thank you for your work this far!!

I want to offer my support and assistance this week 🙂 How can I help?

I also have two questions for you:

  1. Could we please add this from the Covid FAQ to today's newsletter:

    “Can I do anything before I arrive to make the event safer? 

    Yes!  Rapid tests are only effective at detecting the coronavirus 5-8 days after exposure.  We recommend reducing your contacts or isolating for 4 or 5 days leading up Kiez Burn, and after. “

  2. What do you think about me making a similar safety post for Corona as I did for consent & pronouns education that you can find here: https://talk.kiezburn.org/d/ANJQVLmD/consent-discussion-educational-project/55? It could be shared before the event and hung up next to the other ones onsite. I can have one ready by tomorrow with information from the Covid FAQ & 2021 Hygiene Concept.

Ann-Kathrin Rudorf

Ann-Kathrin Rudorf July 30th, 2021 11:37

When will Gate open and therefore the Test Tent?

Mi Go

Mi Go July 29th, 2021 12:46

Thank you for this and all the hard work!

Suggested addition:

“Can I do anything before I arrive to make the event safer? 

Yes!  Rapid tests are only effective at detecting the coronavirus 5-8 days after exposure.  We recommend reducing your contacts or isolating for 4 or 5 days leading up Kiez Burn, and after. “

Caroline

Caroline July 28th, 2021 20:48

@Julian Finn have you add a look a it?

Carlos Vieira

Carlos Vieira July 26th, 2021 16:54

@Franzi ?

Julian Finn

Julian Finn July 26th, 2021 16:50

that I do not know as we haven't been involved in the registration part.

Carlos Vieira

Carlos Vieira July 26th, 2021 16:49

@Julian Finn (Thanks!) replied in the other post giving green light to our plan (with schnelltest for delivery people ofc). Should I also register them as build crew (on top of the already 5 registered builders), or not needed?

Julian Finn

Julian Finn July 25th, 2021 22:53

@Bee let me know and i'll have a look at it.

Veroca R. Sala

Veroca R. Sala July 25th, 2021 21:29

Hi, I bring a question from @Carlos Vieira who commented on the Build thread, requesting input from @Julian Finn @Jan-Christian Kaspareit; discussion comes from this conversation, please continue in this thread. Thanks🙏

Veroca R. Sala

Veroca R. Sala July 25th, 2021 21:18

@Caroline I have reached out to the Korg to flag and see if someone else from the covid team could review the updates because Hanna Maija is on vacation atm🙌, hopefully, someone will swing by and check it out! 🤞

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Anonymous July 25th, 2021 19:53

Caroline

Caroline July 24th, 2021 13:03

Hey @Hanna-Maija (Animal)

So i've put the main infos from the faq in the survival guide + a link to the faq.
I've also updated the taxi section with "ATTENTION: If one of your taxi-comrade test positive to covid at the gate, you may be asked to all leave kiez burn"

Let me know if I need to change anything

Caroline

Caroline July 20th, 2021 18:08

Hey @Hanna-Maija (Animal)

Thank you so much for all the work you've done so far

I just volunteered as survival guide realizer (that we should finish before friday the 30th)

Do you have any time to update the survival guide with infos ? If yes, you can comment this document https://docs.google.com/document/d/143GCCNQR3lubOPay-0M08p8HDZbTDBAl70VGhYDz1Bs

There is a whole chapter for infos about corona.

If you don't have time, no worries. I'll do it this weekend and just ask you to review

Hanna-Maija (Animal)

Hanna-Maija (Animal) July 20th, 2021 09:47

PEOPLE COMING FOR BUILD

When arriving to build you need to present a negative test result not older than 24h (rapid test is sufficient - no PCR test needed). On Wednesday morning the build crew will be tested in the testing tent (before the gate) before the gate is opened, after which you will get your wristbands and will officially have entered the event. We will also hand out self test for the build crew during the build days in between.

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Anonymous July 20th, 2021 09:20

Hanna-Maija (Animal)

Hanna-Maija (Animal) July 20th, 2021 09:18

Yes. Everyone needs a test and everyone gets tested during the event.

Hanna-Maija (Animal)

Hanna-Maija (Animal) July 20th, 2021 09:18

Thank you for being patient! When coming to build you need to present a negative test result not older than 24h. No PCR test required - a rapid test / Burgertest is fine. During the build days we are also offering self test for build crew to stay safe. On Wednesday morning we will test the whole build crew in the testing tent before the gates open for their official entry to the event.

CJ Yetman

CJ Yetman July 20th, 2021 07:53

@everyone Keeping up to date on all these rules, monitoring the changes, getting this approved by the Gesundheitsamt, etc. has taken many months of enormous effort by @Hanna-Maija (Animal) and the covid team... please just follow the freaking rules, even if it's a bit inconvenient to you for one reason or another... we can't constantly adapt or bend the rules to match everyone's preference

Caroline

Caroline July 20th, 2021 07:43

Hey

Thanks a lot for your work

Do i need to bring a quick test at the gate even if I'm fully vaccinated ?

Ashley DuPree

Ashley DuPree July 20th, 2021 07:40

What about the requirements for coming to build? Are you still asking for a PCR test? I'm happy to do this except for the cost, I cannot afford to spend an extra €50 on this and neither can several other members of the build crew for my camp. I posted a question about this in the Google doc, but it was not answered.