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Covid Corona - Discussion and input thread

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Kiez Burn 2021 Hygiene Concept:




The Covid team has gathered some tips for those who still are looking to get vaccinated before the Kiez Burn date. You are welcome:


Kiez Burn Covid Team:

The KB Covid team has been working since the end of 2020 and following the pandemic situation closely. Until the end of June it was not clear at all to us if we would even be able to have the event but now (3 weeks prior to the event) we have finally gotten our Hygienekonzept approved by the Gesundheitsamt and the Covid situation (even though slowly getting more dire again) is likely not going to affect our plans to burn this year! Big cheers to that!

@Hanna-Maija (Animal)
@Julian Finn
@Jan-Christian Kaspareit


Hanna-Maija (Animal) Thu 19 Aug 2021 9:27AM

A heartfelt THANK YOU from the Kiezburn COVID-Team

The Covid Team wants to thank every single participant who followed our Covid Protocol and got tested accordingly. We are happy to announce we did not record a single positive case during the event! All in all we can say that the testing efforts and the testing station were a success and functioned surprisingly well despite of last minute changes and complications with the booking system. This is largely thanks to you all for your patience and support. 

In the following days please listen to your body and get tested if you feel even slight symptoms. We would like to ask you to report any positive cases in the next 10 days to us so we will be aware if there was an outbreak at the event. All the reports will be treated with utmost confidentiality and no action will be taken without consulting with the reporting person. If you feel uncomfortable reporting yourself you may also report anonymously or ask a friend to report for you.

You can send a report here:

If you have any feedback please post it here to record it for the future:

Looking forward to burning with you again soon 🔥

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Caroline Fri 6 Aug 2021 10:04PM

The opposite : testing on wednesday are only for builder as other participant will have their other covid test in hand

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Hanna-Maija (Animal) Sat 7 Aug 2021 7:55AM


Hanna-Maija (Animal) Sat 7 Aug 2021 7:37AM

Thank you all for contributing <3


Jan-Christian Kaspareit Fri 6 Aug 2021 10:23PM

Will post this tomorrow.

Just posted the test link, because that's the next important step. Book your tests.


Mi Go Fri 6 Aug 2021 7:21PM

Yeah, I'm going to guess that "high risk", if it's using infection rate only, means an area with over 200 incidence. The parts of France (in the south) have these very high numbers

Personally I think it should be 100, but what do I know :)


Vlad Fri 6 Aug 2021 7:05PM

Seems weird, they still higher rates of infection than france, but good to know right :)


Mi Go Fri 6 Aug 2021 6:58PM

btw, Spain, Portugal, and UK are high risk areas as well, I've been wondering why NL was called out specifically?


Caroline Fri 6 Aug 2021 6:48PM

@Mi Go Thx, survival guide updated ><

@Vlad maybe post this info on the doc for the next newsletter in the newsletter thread?


Mi Go Fri 6 Aug 2021 6:48PM

@Vlad a quick post to the FB group with the link to the RKI list of variant and high risk countries and some more info:

  • If you are not fully vaccinated for Covid, and


Vlad Fri 6 Aug 2021 6:40PM

Jan, dont make me a bad guy, I read, I talk to ppl and I very often see in my camp and camps I know that ppl are completely not aware of many things concerning org of KB and they dont read survival guide, they also dont read newsletters.

Here is the post:

Hey guys,

your corona angels are back again.

As much as we love to see you all coming from all the sweetest parts of the world and reconnecting to the global burner community, we will strictly enforce German government regulations concerning international travellers (also for Urlaubsrückkehrer). If you just arrived from a country which is on a high alert list ( and did not go through a required procedure (testing on entrance and quarantine - check for exact rules for your country of origin) we will have no choice but to refuse your entrance.

And don't forget spreading corona not only destroys your friends health and your own karma, it might also destroy you legally and financially if you infect somebody while knowingly breaking government's regulations such as a quarantine or test-duty.


Mi Go Fri 6 Aug 2021 6:37PM

FWIW, According to this, The Netherlands is no longer on the list, but now many parts of France are.


Jan-Christian Kaspareit Fri 6 Aug 2021 6:24PM

Makes sense. Will happen. It's just also a ton of work right now and lots of shit to get done. Feel free to prepare a post.

Basically legal stuff will always trump our Hygienekonzept.

Trust me, there is a lot of shit happening behind the scenes and a lot of people are dedicated days and weeks of work to make Kiez Burn happen.

All these people are volunteers though. So not everything will always be perfect and on time.

And please enter the discussion sooner next year 👍 and also follow up on the discussion. Tons of hours went into Corona shit.


Vlad Fri 6 Aug 2021 6:20PM

I think if you already have such a strong corona policy communicating it more clearly would avoid conflicts at the gate most definetely. Probably also makes sense to do it on FB with all the tickets changing hands en mass right now to ppl who will never get a newsletter :_(


Vlad Fri 6 Aug 2021 6:18PM

Just checked on the list apparently France is on it since yesterday as many other countries, crazy.


Vlad Fri 6 Aug 2021 6:17PM

So you cannot co-create on talk, where else should i do it? And in what capacity? :)


Ale Fri 6 Aug 2021 6:14PM

Didn’t seem like questions but a lot of „hints“ and trying to co-create without co-creating to me. If you’re that involved already, it seems very sad to only have you involved so late in the game and on such little capacity as here on talk only. 😊


Jan-Christian Kaspareit Fri 6 Aug 2021 6:14PM

Obviously you are not allowed to enter Kiez Burn, if you are not allowed to leave quarantine. We will try to check as good as possible, but in reality it will be tough to check everyone's quarantine story.

A list of high risk countries will be available at the gate.

If someone sneaks into Kiez Burn even though that person should have been quarantined and infects a lot of burners this person will get into serious legal trouble.


Vlad Fri 6 Aug 2021 6:09PM

Unless a person takes a lead role no questions can be asked? Or what is your point exactly?


Ale Fri 6 Aug 2021 6:02PM

Good to see you’re onto that topic Vlad. I’m sure gate will be happy to have you with them with your well thought out concept and as a Lead/Realizer of checking if people quarantined correctly. :)

I sure as hell wouldn’t feel comfortable to make such difficult choices alone or to just only write about it on the Internet, when people have been sweating for weeks about that stuff. ❤️ (Leaving Love here)


Vlad Fri 6 Aug 2021 5:55PM

Any chance you will metion it in the official communication that you will actively enforce government covid policies for international travellers.


Vlad Fri 6 Aug 2021 5:53PM

That is nice, but there is a difference between do i have to quaranteen or we are going to check if you did :)


Julian Finn Fri 6 Aug 2021 5:52PM

thanks for the reminder :)


Julian Finn Fri 6 Aug 2021 5:52PM

yeah, tough luck. if we find these people, we are not going to let them on site. thanks for the reminder, gate will specifically instructed to check these things.


Vlad Fri 6 Aug 2021 5:51PM

Well i am with you on it, but I am reading a lot of messages like "coming straight from indonesia caus emy trip was cut short because of corona and would love to go to burn right away" and of this kind. Also I know of a lot of ppl who festival hopping through europe and going directly to KB.

I have a feeling that official government regulations are not followed, controlled or that ppl are even aware of them.


Caroline Fri 6 Aug 2021 5:51PM

@Vlad it is already mentionned in the survival guide (covid section, question "should i quarantine")


Julian Finn Fri 6 Aug 2021 5:48PM

We can add something, but also, tbh, radical self-reliance. if you are travelling to another country during these pandemic times, you very well should know what the official regulations in your destination country say. And assuming that a burn might not care about these regulations (and therefore endanger the whole event's existence) is sorta... silly? :D


Vlad Fri 6 Aug 2021 5:46PM

Would be great if you mention it the email/survival guide, I presume a lot of tickets might become immediately avaliable :)


Julian Finn Fri 6 Aug 2021 5:44PM

this is only if you aren't vaccinated. And of course we will check that. Participants coming from high risk areas will have to either show proof of vaccination or very clear proof of quarantine. We are not kidding, nor are we screwing around here.


Caroline Fri 6 Aug 2021 5:44PM

FYI quaranteen from NL is mandatory unless you are fully vaccinated... So not for everyone


Vlad Fri 6 Aug 2021 5:40PM

Another question relevant for the community: will german corona regulation be inforced at the gate?

For instance all travellers (update: who are not fully vaccinated) from NL should have a mandatory 5 days quaranteen after entering germany, and they have to register an visit with adate of entrance befor ethey enter, will this be controlled? As far as I understand we have quite a bunch of ppl coming straight from NL?


Jan-Christian Kaspareit Fri 6 Aug 2021 5:49PM

It's the regular stuff you have to enter for any Schnelltest. So yes.

Also it is an official Schnelltest company doing the job. So it's the same info that every other test center wants and handled professionally. Kiez Burn does not have access to this data.


Caroline Fri 6 Aug 2021 4:37PM

As covid ambassador, i will try to make all of my kiez member to book their apointments. Is the info you have to out on your ticket (like birth date and phone number) mandatory? It's not obvious...


Hanna-Maija (Animal) Thu 5 Aug 2021 1:50PM


Each Kiez has nominated a Covid Ambassador. These Ambassadors are invited to a meetup onsite at Deine Mudda camp on

Wednesday 11.8. at 18:00

If you can’t make it send a message to me and we will figure it out!


Vlad Fri 6 Aug 2021 6:51AM

This was misunderstood by me, since I read somewhere on talk that the same company/ppl who provide first help will do the testing, but I guess it changed.


Purzel Thu 5 Aug 2021 7:09PM

Only commenting on the medical emergency, not on the math itself.

The test center and first aid is provided by 2 different company's, in case of a medical emergency at the test station, first aid would take over. (The tester themselves often don't have any medical training other than how to do the testing)


Jan-Christian Kaspareit Thu 5 Aug 2021 2:24PM

I can see the objections, but the testers already did similar events and think this is appropriate.

So we'll just roll with it for now, I think and in case it doesn't work we can maybe provide some helping hands.

It's a burn. Stuff will figure itself out.

Worst case scenario is that the test center stage is the most popular place. 👍


Vlad Thu 5 Aug 2021 6:15AM

Question: what are actually the test capacities provided on site?

We have 1000 participants, if a test center operates 10 hours long, test center needs to be able to test 2 ppl a minute. Considering that a test typically takes 5 minutes of a tester's time there should be at least 10 tester's on site to manage this throughput, pls correct me if I am wrong.

If this is not the case corona testing strategy should be adjusted to either reducing the amount of tests (say one test in 2 days) or done in camps.

PS: according to testing experts it is doable with 6 ppl when ppl queue non stop and tester's have some org help :)


Sunniva Thu 5 Aug 2021 9:08AM

Hi all! I had a check-in with @Hanna-Maija (Animal) and made some last minute improvements to the poster this morning. Please use this new version! @Jan-Christian Kaspareit & @Veroca R. Sala 💛


Veroca R. Sala Wed 4 Aug 2021 6:33PM

wonderful, added on the newsletter Friday edition as a reminder, already out on Facebook and will do a telegram post with this tomorrow ( and the dogs post which i forgot today, too much going on !!! )

thanks all!


Jan-Christian Kaspareit Wed 4 Aug 2021 6:05PM

Thank you so much for compiling the information!

I think it's great to have it on social media and I will add it to the Covid newsletter.


Sunniva Wed 4 Aug 2021 6:01PM

Hi all! I made this poster to spread some more awareness on our safer measures against Corona. I'm in contact with @Mareike to get it printed for the Gate. Where else should it be shared? Social media? @Veroca R. Sala? Added the file as a PDF in printable and shareable resolution so please all just go ahead and use this poster freely as you feel fit!


Niall Thu 12 Aug 2021 4:03PM

Glad you asked.

So i have several self-tests here, bought early in the hope that I could use them at a venue entry point, wait for the results, and enter. Not so, as understandably impractical. However I can't even use them while being observed in a pharmacy to get a certificate. Instead I need to go to a test centre, ID in hand, and give contact information.

However that's not the end of it. Using the possibility/pretense of forgery, an additional verification step is required.

Whether i have my QR code on paper or an app, all fields contained in the QR are made visible to the verifying app. They are unnecessarily more detailed than simply Name and a thumbs up or down. If i'm using say the Corona-Warn-App I have no way of managing what fields are displayed, again connected to an ID.

There is a fork of the CWA that in addition to replacing the proprietary Google libraries with Open Source versions, has what's known as verifiable builds. This allows you to verify that the code on the github matches what's running on your phone. This is only used by a tiny amount of geeks (like me, though not anymore as i'm vaccinated, and this is nonsense)

The verification app that reads all the data has no such assurances, I don't even know what verification app is being used, never mind what it then does with the data.

There are guidelines that such apps should not record this information, but there are also EU laws stating we shouldn't be using this technology beyond our borders in the first place, so given this is happening regardless I don't have much faith in either.

So here we have not just your browser or your IP connected to a website or a download, but a verifiable connection between your identity and a place in time. Granted what i'm discussing here is probably an unlikely occurrence, for now, but given time rogue apps are enivitable.

Imagine this on a large scale. It's not just a marketing data mining issue, but due to the connection to your health records (likely to increase in scope) has implications towards insurance too.

Software of this importance needs to be designed with a future tyrannical government in mind. Although this is probably the best in class with the exception of what I know about the Swiss app, it's just not good enough. It's not what I associate with a free society, certainly not a burn, and if tests for the vaccinated are required in Germany post October 10 when they're no longer free, then either the (mostly lunatic) Querdenken demos need to multiply their numbers by 10, or i'm sadly out of here.

PS: Here's why at least PCR makes no sense:


Matt Thu 12 Aug 2021 2:47PM

Out of pure academic interest (I agree with you broadly, but the meat of the issue is beside the point at this stage — I’m on site and complying with da rulez notwithstanding what I think of some of them) — what’s with the emphasis on visual observation of a physical Impfpass? What’s wrong with an electronic inspection of a digital Impfpass?


Niall Thu 12 Aug 2021 1:51PM

Oh i'm not going, so not everyone, lol. Anything that requires more than a visual observation of my physical Impfpass or Antigen self-test is a No from me. Have fun though!


CJ Yetman Thu 12 Aug 2021 1:43PM

It doesn’t matter what anyone “thinks” about it anymore… the rules are set, approved by the Health Amt, written in the hygiene protocol… everyone follows it, no exceptions, no excuses.


Niall Thu 12 Aug 2021 10:22AM

That person was correct. PCR testing vaccinated people makes no sense.


CJ Yetman Thu 5 Aug 2021 11:32AM

And KB has five times as many people as FTE, so expect there will be some conflicts!


Christine! Thu 5 Aug 2021 11:23AM

We had a really long talk with someone at gate who didn't want to be tested because he was vaccinated. We did have some speed tests handy and a little quarantine area for people who failed to test prior to coming, regardless of how many times we communicated testing was mandatory. There were more people who needed to be tested on the spot on arrival.

I hope you're right. But, things always go wrong.


Julian Finn Wed 4 Aug 2021 7:58PM

oh it will be checked for sure. I just don't believe that anyone would go through the lengths of faking a certificate instead of just getting tested


Christine! Wed 4 Aug 2021 7:15PM

Based on the events that caused that massive spike in NL this has happened on a large scale...

Do I expect this to be a problem at KB? No. Would I make that gamble, also no. I mean, I do assume all test data and vaccination data will be checked... this is just in those cases that whatever you are using for that, does not function because of the publisher of the QR code is not recognized..


Julian Finn Wed 4 Aug 2021 4:36PM

We doubt that anyone in their right mind wants to trick us with a fake rapid-test result. (Srsly, who would do that?). Presenting a document that appears to be from an official testing station is fine.


Christine! Wed 4 Aug 2021 4:27PM

Question/Option for the Covid team:
If you guys are gonna scan codes, and some codes don't scan because they are not the right country, you might wanna try the Luxemburgish app for that.. it's called Just thought I'd mention the possibility.
I am not sure if it is still going to be a problem... But apparently we had a minor hiccup (luckily gate at FTE was a Luxemburg run operation)

It is also likely there will be some people with traditional QR codes that can be read with any QR code scan app.


Shay Erov Wed 4 Aug 2021 11:30AM

Thanks for the quick response!
So I'll get one of "Bürgertest" in Gernamy before the event.


Julian Finn Wed 4 Aug 2021 11:28AM

as per general regulation: you need a certified test. You can, however get this at any "Bürgertest" station throughout the country. They are literally everywhere and they are free, paid by the state.


Shay Erov Wed 4 Aug 2021 11:24AM

Question regarding the negative Covid tests we have to bring with us to enter the burn.
I read that an Antigen test is enough and there's no need for PCR, which is great...
I'm coming from Switzerland and here I can get a home kit for an antigen test, I was wondering if this should be enough or do we have to do the test in Germany in the various Covid centers...
As I am an Israeli and not an EU/Shengen resident, it might be harder (and more expensive) to get the tests in Germany...


Christine! Sun 15 Aug 2021 7:06AM

I'm currently hopping festival, and I've given this some thought.

I'm leaving Kiez burn where I basically was in a bubble with people who have been tested every day, so a fairly safe environment.

Now I'm traveling between Kiezburn and event B. My traveling interactions are more or less the same as if I were traveling from home.

So the main question is, is my normal everyday life more or less safe then my life at Kiezburn?

And I think I'll have to give credit to the Kiezburn Corona team here, because I do see more exposure risks in my everyday life than at Kiezburn after a week being among daily tested people.

So, one could argue that festival hopping might be safer than going to a festival, resuming normal life and doing the next festival.

I guess it all stands and falls with your ability to self isolate in your home environment, and your actual commitment to actually do so.

Maybe I'm missing something... Like the different form of social interactions at a burn.. yes.. that might be the main thing.. but I'm not convinced about which side of the balance weighs the heaviest.


Niall Thu 12 Aug 2021 10:55AM

PCR detects RNA, it doesn't distinguish between infectious and non-infectious particles.

It tells you you're infected, not that you're infectious.

Since vaccines protect against severe disease, not infection (with the sole exception of HPV) determining whether someone is infected or not post vaccine is meaningless.

The point is you don't get sick, and you don't reproduce enough infectious particles to make others sick.


Mi Go Wed 4 Aug 2021 9:20AM

Thanks both for your quick answers. I know things are hectic now.


Hanna-Maija (Animal) Wed 4 Aug 2021 8:48AM

I agree with Michael 100%. It's pandemic, the numbers are on the rise again. I don't think we should promote festival hopping at this stage. If someone does, we can't of course stop this but enabling it by offering per test doesn't sound like a responsible act we want to encourage.


Jan-Christian Kaspareit Tue 3 Aug 2021 9:48PM

Thanks for the input. I just reacted on the request and didn't really think it through.

As of now we don't have PCR testing on site and I will check tomorrow if it is possible to get a PCR test machine to handle positive Schnelltests (rapid test).

But I am with you that everyone should really think about the possibility of an infection and reduce contacts the days after the burn probably.


Mi Go Tue 3 Aug 2021 9:38PM

Dear KB Covid team,

I want to register a strong concern. The possibility was raised in a thread on the other platform, of offering PCR tests on-site without a positive rapid test - in particular, to enable Kiez Burners to have a negative PCR test result to gain entry to Northern Lights, which begins the day after Kiez Burn.

I seriously doubt the NL covid protocols are designed to account for people getting such an 'entry PCR' during another Burn. Then it's a snapshot before continuing to Burn, and then travel, then expose NL to whatever came in between.

If anything the community should be encouraging reduced contacts after Kiez Burn, not the exact opposite. Using resources to enable it, seems contrary to principles of civic responsibility, specifically towards Northern Lights.

I think it should be transparent whether PCR tests of this kind will be made available and when.

@Hanna-Maija (Animal) @Julian Finn @Jan-Christian Kaspareit


Caroline Fri 6 Aug 2021 4:31PM

@Hanna-Maija (Animal) @Mareike I've seen that the test center opens at 10h30 on Mittwoch. Roland start operating at 10 so I've told him 9-9h30 for testing. Will there be an exception for him or should I ask him to come later?


Caroline Mon 2 Aug 2021 11:00AM

Awsome, will tell him that


Mareike Mon 2 Aug 2021 10:22AM

yes just spoke to @Hanna-Maija (Animal) and we would both agree to propose testing to him before and ffp2 mask wearing in the car:)


Caroline Mon 2 Aug 2021 10:11AM

@Meghan yes he does. Phone number in the survival guide


Meghan Mon 2 Aug 2021 10:07AM

If he were offering rides during build, like on Monday, I'd gratefully use that service!


Caroline Mon 2 Aug 2021 9:54AM

A freiland's neighbor (Roland) is organising a shuttle service from Sternfeld to kiez burn.

I'm in contact with him and he will probably carry more than 160 people on the 11th.

The ride is short and i'll ask him to keep the windows open

Should we ask him to get tested at the gate in the morning of the 11th (around 9, 9h30) ?

He will probably have rides on the other days. Should i propose him everyday?

@Hanna-Maija (Animal) @Mareike

Thanks a lot !


Hanna-Maija (Animal) Mon 2 Aug 2021 7:57PM

Thank you Sunniva! I added this (1) to the FAQ! It should also be in the next newsletter

If you feel creative and want to come up with a design I will say big YES!!! :) <3


Sunniva Mon 2 Aug 2021 8:38AM

Dear @Hanna-Maija (Animal), @Julian Finn & @Jan-Christian Kaspareit: Thank you for your work this far!!

I want to offer my support and assistance this week 🙂 How can I help?

I also have two questions for you:

  1. Could we please add this from the Covid FAQ to today's newsletter:

    “Can I do anything before I arrive to make the event safer? 

    Yes!  Rapid tests are only effective at detecting the coronavirus 5-8 days after exposure.  We recommend reducing your contacts or isolating for 4 or 5 days leading up Kiez Burn, and after. “

  2. What do you think about me making a similar safety post for Corona as I did for consent & pronouns education that you can find here: It could be shared before the event and hung up next to the other ones onsite. I can have one ready by tomorrow with information from the Covid FAQ & 2021 Hygiene Concept.


Carlos Vieira Mon 26 Jul 2021 4:54PM

@Franzi ?


Julian Finn Mon 26 Jul 2021 4:50PM

that I do not know as we haven't been involved in the registration part.


Carlos Vieira Mon 26 Jul 2021 4:49PM

@Julian Finn (Thanks!) replied in the other post giving green light to our plan (with schnelltest for delivery people ofc). Should I also register them as build crew (on top of the already 5 registered builders), or not needed?


Veroca R. Sala Sun 25 Jul 2021 9:29PM

Hi, I bring a question from @Carlos Vieira who commented on the Build thread, requesting input from @Julian Finn @Jan-Christian Kaspareit; discussion comes from this conversation, please continue in this thread. Thanks🙏


Caroline Wed 4 Aug 2021 8:22PM

@Meghan hm ah yes.

I misunderstood as well thats why I added this part in the taxi section.

I will remove it soon.


Julian Finn Wed 4 Aug 2021 8:02PM

daily test at the gate but the first test (on wednesday) has to be brought from another testing station to prevent overload.


Meghan Wed 4 Aug 2021 8:01PM

Now that I've read this lovely survival guide, I'm slightly confused; it does mention covid testing at the gate when talking about taxis, but the section about entry requirements only seems to talk about showing proof of a negative test (not an actual test done at the gate before entry is allowed).
Will there actually be testing at the gate, or is that maybe just leftover from a previous version of the covid plan and no longer accurate?


Jan-Christian Kaspareit Tue 3 Aug 2021 4:00PM

Thank you so much! I read a lot of documents the remaining weeks, but didn't make it through the survival guide... Thanks for the update!


Caroline Tue 3 Aug 2021 10:49AM

Hmm, i'm not sure anybody from covid team read the survival guide but i basically took most important question from FAQ and added "you need a negative covid test to enter" here and there

So i think it's okay :)


Hanna-Maija (Animal) Mon 2 Aug 2021 7:54PM

Hi, is this matter sorted or do I still need to check?


Caroline Wed 28 Jul 2021 8:48PM

@Julian Finn have you add a look a it?


Julian Finn Sun 25 Jul 2021 10:53PM

@Bee let me know and i'll have a look at it.


Veroca R. Sala Sun 25 Jul 2021 9:18PM

@Caroline I have reached out to the Korg to flag and see if someone else from the covid team could review the updates because Hanna Maija is on vacation atm🙌, hopefully, someone will swing by and check it out! 🤞


Caroline Sat 24 Jul 2021 1:03PM

Hey @Hanna-Maija (Animal)

So i've put the main infos from the faq in the survival guide + a link to the faq.
I've also updated the taxi section with "ATTENTION: If one of your taxi-comrade test positive to covid at the gate, you may be asked to all leave kiez burn"

Let me know if I need to change anything


Caroline Tue 20 Jul 2021 6:08PM

Hey @Hanna-Maija (Animal)

Thank you so much for all the work you've done so far

I just volunteered as survival guide realizer (that we should finish before friday the 30th)

Do you have any time to update the survival guide with infos ? If yes, you can comment this document

There is a whole chapter for infos about corona.

If you don't have time, no worries. I'll do it this weekend and just ask you to review


Hanna-Maija (Animal) Mon 2 Aug 2021 7:53PM

I am not sure yet. Will let you know as soon as I do!


Ann-Kathrin Rudorf Fri 30 Jul 2021 11:37AM

When will Gate open and therefore the Test Tent?

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Hanna-Maija (Animal) Tue 20 Jul 2021 9:47AM


When arriving to build you need to present a negative test result not older than 24h (rapid test is sufficient - no PCR test needed). On Wednesday morning the build crew will be tested in the testing tent (before the gate) before the gate is opened, after which you will get your wristbands and will officially have entered the event. We will also hand out self test for the build crew during the build days in between.


CJ Yetman Tue 20 Jul 2021 7:53AM

@everyone Keeping up to date on all these rules, monitoring the changes, getting this approved by the Gesundheitsamt, etc. has taken many months of enormous effort by @Hanna-Maija (Animal) and the covid team... please just follow the freaking rules, even if it's a bit inconvenient to you for one reason or another... we can't constantly adapt or bend the rules to match everyone's preference


Hanna-Maija (Animal) Tue 20 Jul 2021 9:18AM

Thank you for being patient! When coming to build you need to present a negative test result not older than 24h. No PCR test required - a rapid test / Burgertest is fine. During the build days we are also offering self test for build crew to stay safe. On Wednesday morning we will test the whole build crew in the testing tent before the gates open for their official entry to the event.


Ashley DuPree Tue 20 Jul 2021 7:40AM

What about the requirements for coming to build? Are you still asking for a PCR test? I'm happy to do this except for the cost, I cannot afford to spend an extra €50 on this and neither can several other members of the build crew for my camp. I posted a question about this in the Google doc, but it was not answered.


Hanna-Maija (Animal) Thu 5 Aug 2021 1:53PM

The FAQ has been updated!


Mi Go Thu 29 Jul 2021 12:46PM

Thank you for this and all the hard work!

Suggested addition:

“Can I do anything before I arrive to make the event safer? 

Yes!  Rapid tests are only effective at detecting the coronavirus 5-8 days after exposure.  We recommend reducing your contacts or isolating for 4 or 5 days leading up Kiez Burn, and after. “

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Hanna-Maija (Animal) Tue 20 Jul 2021 9:18AM

Yes. Everyone needs a test and everyone gets tested during the event.


Caroline Tue 20 Jul 2021 7:43AM


Thanks a lot for your work

Do i need to bring a quick test at the gate even if I'm fully vaccinated ?


Hanna-Maija (Animal) Tue 20 Jul 2021 7:13AM

Covid FAQ

This document has answers to many questions people have been asking lately. It explains in few easy words what is expected from the participants according to the official Hygienekonzept.

If you have a question that is not yet answered in the document please ask it here and we will add it to the doc!


Hanna-Maija (Animal) Tue 20 Jul 2021 7:10AM

Hygienekonzept Approved by the Gesunheitsamt!

Great news!!! Our Hygienekonzept has been approved and is now the official document defining our Covid policy for the event.

The document can be found here:

English translation coming up soon!


Niall Sat 10 Jul 2021 2:06PM

Let's hope science and policy align and we don't go the way of The Netherlands. I doubt it, the response has been rational so far. Particularly the access to tests.


Bee Tue 29 Jun 2021 7:34PM

There will be some updates from the covid team as some of this is outdated. They have been furiously working the last days to create a concept frmor the Gesundheitsamt that is fair but also will be accepted easily. They're in contact with a virologist and a private lab owner. It would potentially not fall to the volunteers after all but a contracted team.

This gear might be good to have around though in case of a quarantine on site happening. 👍

👀 Keep an eye out for confirmation on new info soon.


Fabio Tue 29 Jun 2021 11:34AM

FFP3 masks are also available without the vent


Sven Dudink Tue 29 Jun 2021 11:26AM

ffp3 is actually not so great for the people around you since they have a one way air vent to the outside. So great protection for the wearer (which will probably be vaccinated) but not for the rest

(i just read that is not per definition true for all ffp3 masks, my mistake)


Vlad Tue 29 Jun 2021 11:08AM

If the current plan will be executed all kieze need to have a corona lead who will check/perform tests on a regular basis.

Here is an article which explains measures hospitals in UK are currently using to minimise the risk of inffection to their stuff with a great success:

In a nutshell: ffp3 masks and face shields while performing tests and procedures in close proximity. Maybe something we can recommend for corona leads.


Bee Sun 27 Jun 2021 4:55PM

Heya, for mask requirements (closed spaces or no distance etc) will it be a rule that we must wear FFP2 masks or can we bring out the fancy masks we have purchased before the ffp2 rule came into play? ;)


Purzel Fri 25 Jun 2021 5:18PM

The company that does our first aid is also active in performing rapid Tests, would it make sense to extend their task?


Hanna-Maija (Animal) Thu 24 Jun 2021 12:53PM

Covid Team needs enforcements!

Looking for a couple of people who could join our team to tackle 1. purchases and 2. testing companies. If you are interested or know someone contact me! :)

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Jan-Christian Kaspareit Thu 24 Jun 2021 12:34PM

New Corona rules for Mecklenburg Vorpommern:

A new official document will hopefully be released the next days.


Hanna-Maija (Animal) Thu 24 Jun 2021 12:25PM

Kiez Covid Ambassadors

This post is going to be updated with the info to the Kiez's Covid Ambassadors. We don't yet have a finalised plan on what the responsibilities of the Ambassadors will be but here are some possible tasks:

  • Ambassadors will make sure that the people in their Kiez will perform the daily or bi daily rapid tests and report the results to the Kiez Burn Covid Lead by certain time every day.

  • Ambassadors will make sure that the structures in their Kiez comply to the Covid measures

  • Ambassadors will make sure each Kiez has a hand washing and sanitising station

  • Ambassadors will make sure that their camp Kiez members understand and follow the Covid Hygiene Plan

    All these are just preliminary ideas and subject to chance.

There will be a meeting/training for the Covid Ambassadors closer to the event. Stay tuned! :)


Veroca R. Sala Fri 25 Jun 2021 6:08PM

@Erin Jeavons-Fellows for the Kieze that host workshops


Hanna-Maija (Animal) Thu 24 Jun 2021 12:17PM

Covid Safety of the Dreams and Workshops

Here are the covid safety measures for the dreams and workshops. These are still subject to change - nothing final has been decided yet but something to start with. It's important that the dreamers and the workshoppers keep in mind that there might be restrictions and that the plans might need to adjusted closer to the event

If you have any questions please feel free to write here or contact me


Vlad Wed 23 Jun 2021 7:05PM

Right now, there are moderna vaccination appointments added on a daily basis to the berlin impfcenter portal:

If you know somebody who is not vaccinated because of unavalibility of appointment, pls helps them.

Another trick you make an appoinment for later day, say right now 8.7 is avaliable for the last few hours. then you call the hotline and reschedule your appointment to the next day, cause moderna centers have a no show rate of 20%.


Hanna-Maija (Animal) Thu 24 Jun 2021 1:48PM

The Covid team is keeping it's eye closely on all the developments and working on the Hygiene Konzept and with the Gesunheitsamt.


Vlad Thu 24 Jun 2021 12:29PM

Can we submit the plan which says we are going to obligy by all rules set during the festival, and say if applied today we are ready to keep 1.5m distance etc.
This version was created on 22.04, but is marked to be valid till 30.06 - considering that corona infection index went down from 100+ to 6 in M-V, there should be a newer edition of this document, but i did not find it on the fast search.

Updated: that is the newest i found so far:

Marked as an update from 16.06.2021, but it doe snot seem to change much from the previous one, pages 19-23.

Tanzveranstaltungen sind untersagt.“

News from 2 days ago":,coronavirus5452.html

Es darf auch wieder getanzt werden und bei Veranstaltungen ist es wieder erlaubt, Alkohol auszuschenken. Großveranstaltungen im Außenbereich mit bis zu 15.000 Gästen sind wieder möglich, müssen aber mit einem Hygienekonzept und Tests abgesichert werden.

It is finally is allowed to dance and parties and clubs are opened in M-V, not in berlin OO, rules should take effect 25.06


Hanna-Maija (Animal) Thu 24 Jun 2021 12:12PM

This is a good question and the answer is we don't know yet. We will most likely only get the permit in July and we are constantly working on the hygiene plan. At the moment no official plan has been submitted yet so it's still changing. Not sure if we can change it after the approval but I will let you know when I find out.


Vlad Wed 23 Jun 2021 7:01PM

Question: will we have to follow the corona regulations at the moment of approval (1.7) or the corona regulation set at the moment of the event (1.8)?

Obviously if the rules will get stricter thanks to delta mutation they will apply, but if the rules will get looser. For instance 1.5m distancing and masking is not a rule in berlin anymore, also you can host mor eppl in a closed structure etc etc?


Hanna-Maija (Animal) Thu 24 Jun 2021 12:27PM

Walls. Roofs are ok.

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Hanna-Maija (Animal) Wed 23 Jun 2021 11:04AM

Ok cool. Could they make windows on each side so that 50% of the total wall space is open? How many people would go in a the time? Can the contact me and we figure it out? :)


Diarmaid Wed 23 Jun 2021 10:21AM

I am asking because of this dream: - would it be possible to make this a covid safe stucture while still leaving it a cube?


Hanna-Maija (Animal) Wed 23 Jun 2021 8:47AM

This is a great question. I would like to do these decision on case by case. Do you have a plan we could already discuss?


Diarmaid Wed 23 Jun 2021 8:22AM

A question on what counts as a wall - if you have say a cage with iron bars, then would that count as a wall? I am currently thinking that a wall has to cover more than 50% of the space to be consided, but would love some clarification.



Hanna-Maija (Animal) Wed 23 Jun 2021 8:45AM

Its at the moment me. Recruiting for the role.


Veroca R. Sala Fri 18 Jun 2021 1:52PM

I dont think we have such role . Would be interesting to have one member of the team to consult... otherwise dreams could just use the protocols .(?)


Diarmaid Thu 17 Jun 2021 11:42AM

Who is the contact for the Dreamers on the Covid team? Is it @Hanna-Maija (Animal) ?


Hanna-Maija (Animal) Tue 15 Jun 2021 7:38PM

How to get vaccinated in Berlin

The covid team has gathered some tips for those who still are looking to get vaccinated before the Kiez Burn date. You are welcome:


Hanna-Maija (Animal) Tue 15 Jun 2021 4:28PM

Covid measures

The covid team has written it's thoughts down and the current status of the confirmed and considered covid measures and can be found here:


Owl Wed 30 Jun 2021 8:10AM

Well, keeping something potentially deadly: German laws were always different from US laws in terms of responsibility and liability. And Burning Man for my knowledge never had to deal with a spreading disease. So one can't apply general Burning Man ethos here.
From what I learned, schnelltests are best when one is already feeling sick, but for the time before (several days) infection reliability is said to be lower, even though the virus is already spreading (Source: NDR Info Corona-Update). Combined with the fact that the spreading rate by fully vaxxed is just way lower, but not zero, and our usual mingling behavior you could reach some spreading in your scenario. I'm not sure if the permit authorities is having a different view on this.

And Veroca, thanks for pointing out that not everyone like to be addressed (even very indirectly) as a hippie. I wasn't aware that there is a discussion about how we title ourselves in general, and it is an interesting read, making aware of the variety of people our community is made of. I personally think we are all a bit Bluna ... 👼


Thilo Wed 30 Jun 2021 7:35AM

Holy fucking Jesus. We need a language police I think.


Veroca R. Sala Tue 29 Jun 2021 8:49AM

Thanks, Thilo, I invite you to read this thread. Best


Thilo Wed 2 Jun 2021 10:47AM

Hello. In my humble opinion the covid protocols should not be overkill. Testing fully vaccinated hippies is total overkill since a vaccination gives you more statistical security than a negative test can ever give you. Regular re-testing of every hippie on the event is going to be extremely complicated and seems not realistic to me. I'm speaking as someone who is regularly chasing down hippies mid event for ticket shit and let me tell you: It's not gonna happen.
How about this: 2x vaxxed hippies are good to do as they please. 1x vaxxed hippies do a schnelltest on site. Unvaxxed hippies bring a fresh CPR. We keep schnelltest on site if somebody has symptoms.
The rest of the risk is between the hippies themselves in my opinion. Just like with all the other risks that come with attending a burn. I would never ask the Org or the Verein or a volunteer to be responsible for my or anybodies safety. That is just unfair and way too much to ask. Hippies can radically rely on their own safety level, bring a mask, keep out of orgies etc. as they feel comfortable. Playing with fire is part of the ethos of Burning Man. Keep burning potentially deadly I say and let's not become the hippie government. 😘


Niall Tue 1 Jun 2021 10:22AM

If you look at the age distribution of Berlin and Germany, the people who vastly tend to fill hospitals are 55+ year old's, who have already been vaccinated. Granted, this is mostly still the first dose, but the two week period after that point which divides the risk by 5, has already passed.

So the only thing that could cause a 4th wave would be a variant with mutations in a part of the virus that we're not currently targeting. So far we haven't seen any examples of this, but have seen good evidence to suggest that even if it does happen and a new variant evades antibodies, our secondary t-cell defences would still recognise and manage the infection without causing disease. All the variant talk mostly just serves to sell news.

Also it looks like the plan is to double the allowed outdoor gathering capacity every 2 weeks provided there's no increase in the incidence rate. I think it's 500 from June 5th, 1000 June 18th. So even with some slip ups August is looking good.

I can't answer the more personal risk questions as really they're up to the individual at this point. Personally, i'm more concerned with the data protection implications, but sadly that seems to be just me.


Anonymous Wed 30 Jun 2021 10:07AM

Fully Vaccinated



Anonymous Thu 10 Jun 2021 1:41PM

Fully Vaccinated

Might be worth updating the description to include the option of Johnson&Johnson vaccine which is a one jab only option. Not so well known here but approved and available.


Anonymous Thu 3 Jun 2021 11:02AM

Totally Unvaccinated

I think


Poll Created Mon 31 May 2021 11:49AM

What will be your expected level of vaccination by the start of Kiez Burn? (10.08.21) Closed Wed 30 Jun 2021 11:00AM

It would be interesting to get a rough idea of how many of us will be at what level of vaccination by the time of the starting event.

Some things to keep in mind

  • If you haven't got any jabs or appointments at this point in time, and are not in any priority group, please be aware that the AstraZeneca requires 12 weeks in between jabs to become fully effective. (absolute minimum separation 4 weeks)

  • One is only considered fully vaccinated 14 days after their second jab

  • It takes at least 10 days for the efficacy of the first jab to kick in

  • Having had Covid infection within the last 6 months apparently counts as the first dose



Results Option % of points Voters
Fully Vaccinated 82.8% 53  
Totally Unvaccinated 6.3% 4  
Second Jab administered 27.07 - 10.08 6.3% 4  
First jab administered before August 3.1% 2  
First Jab administered August 1-10 1.6% 1  
Undecided 0% 48  

64 of 112 people have voted (57%)