So now I want to make an official application for c.a. 2000€ - 3000€ from Kiez Burn e.V and/or the Kiez Burn Event treasury to run this event.

Just pinging the board & Schatzimeisterinen here for an answer. Can we get our money for this? Do you need anything else from me?
@Cairn (Clément) @Cris @Mareike @Caro T @Jan-Christian Kaspareit @Veroca R. Sala @Kathleen Stoeckel

We will be discussing opening donations to fund the event, in which we would be providing a refund to the Verein's budget allocation, of an unknown amount, along with all the unspent funds.
But I think it's important to keep this event free, and not sell drinks to recover costs.

Do you trust me to handle the finances appropriately? 🤓

Thanks for setting up the budget (and everything else) @Professor Kaos. We had a little chat on it. Would it be possible for you to work with a committed Kiez Burn e.V. budget of max. 1800 EUR for the KiezKon? We are putting out 22 k EUR for Art grants / Dreams this year while all basic infrastructure cost are increasing at the same time. Thus, we aim to keep the budget tight(er) before the event and once we can confirm to have remaining funds, spend the money later in the year. Let's have a call to discuss more details. Thanks xxx

Thanks for getting back to me @Kathleen Stoeckel.

That's great, yes I can work with the budget of 1800€. This is enough to ensure that we can easily cover the minimum costs. I will set up a framework for donations with which to offset this as much as possible, and/or use the donations from attendees to provide some financial support to the venue for their generous offer of hosting us.

Difficult question. On one hand I see the need for fundraising opportunities, and having already a lot of people in one place would spare the need to set up and “advertise”, and it would actually help a number of people to survive the day (and maybe better than buying in the neighborhood). The participation and effort increasements might work from the camps itselves and also with additional people meeting their camps, and others. For city-based pre compression style events the cooperation with “vendors” is not unusual, and keeping money within the community doesn’t seem to be a bad thing. But it feels a bit strange in the light of the production budget that the community “pays” to create this opportunity.

It could be worth to look into more possibilities to increase participation and also how to create fundraising opportunities, which are organized like that from the beginning (like some Kieze already did at H13, the Burner Embassy and other locations).

Indeed, I am keen to encourage a stronger experience of the principals. No Commerce is one that I find radically changes my experience, but a part of that is the abundance of food and drink one experiences at a burn (in conjunction to the lack of money).

There are many ways to increase participation at Kiez Kon, I tried quite a few, but not many people are biting. So we either say 'fuck it' or we try something else (which is why we're here doing this poll). I just don't have the free-time to explore some of the more fun options right now (incl. messaging everyone directly, making really nice graphics, a fancy website, having a proper promotional plan). I had hoped an early contributor might have some more skills in that department......

Sorry about the Decommodification/No Commerce thing. I tried to change it as soon as I noticed, but someone had already voted and I couldn't remove it. from the list. I thought it better to leave than make a new poll.

Donations does fall with the realm of 'commerce'. It's Commerce if you're 'gifting' with the hope of a return gift, that's not gifting as we have aspired to practice it. Donations is more like stacking 'trading' (exchange) with 'gambling' (an uncertain exchange).