talk.kiezburn.org
Wed 16 Jun 2021 5:42PM

Aligning Comms

VRS Veroca R. Sala Public Seen by 169

I am the volunteer Uncoordinator and Korg member.

This Thread is to align about the content we need to post on our coms. This thread should be in the Communicorns Group, to gain participation I use the planning group ( Eventually i could move it to the Comms parent group)

We don't really have a communication lead and I see the need to coordinate this because we have a few happenings in the upcoming weeks and we want to avoid spamming our liebe kiezburners.

Our Channels:

  • We have a special newsletter for ticketholders

  • Telegram channel with over 700 subscribers

  • Facebook with over 4000 members

  • @Veroca R. Sala (volunteers uncoordination and recruitment - telegram channel). Will be making the copy for Facebook posts and Telegram.

  • @Rafa, will be proofreading my copy + making the graphics for all FB posts and scheduling the posts as well.

I tag the following humans:

  • @Nora Flora (newsletter) FYI

  • @Cairn (Clément) ( site planning) FYI in case you need to announce site map closing.

  • @Erin Jeavons-Fellows @Relativity Rltvty ( Kieze facilitation ) FYI in case you want to announce Kieze registration period ends or any other initiative to bring together those campers without camp.Add in the comments so we know how comes.

  • Moderating? Nobody & Everybody

  • @Myriam TheWanderer when is the vehicle registration form coming out? And when does it end? So to create graphics and plan posts accordingly

  • @Jarrod Wright when the performances sign up starts and end?

  • @Professor Kaos when does the ticket transfer starts?


    REALIZERS:

If you have important events/dates/ deadlines please add in the comments and we will make it fit in the schedule and prioritize the most urgent info/posts


Important dates in the Upcoming weeks

  • 18.06 DREAMS SUBMIT ENDS

  • 19.06 - 24.06: announcements on telegram and FB posts for ticket holders to prepare their tokens - the voting period is soon to start.

  • 23.06. no central bus of hippies to Freiland

  • 24.06 Kieze Meeting 7.30 pm

  • 24.06: Performance registration opens ( until 12th July)

  • 24.06 - 30.06: all week about DREAMS VOTING. And somehow promoting dreams.

  • 30.06 - 05.07: all about volunteer shifts to recruiting remaining shifts available.

  • 05.07 - ______

  • 06.08 Kieze Registration ends

@Rafa is making the graphic and scheduling FB posts day by day while Vero is writing the copy of all posts & telegram A.:

  • Tuesday 22.06: copy on the graphic: "Prepare your tokens" "voting starts soon"

  • Wednesday 23.06 copy on the graphic: "No Bus of Hippies"

  • Thursday 24.06. - 00 :00 copy on the graphic: "Vote your Dream" "by 30th June"

  • Thursday 24.06 6pm: "Register your performance"

  • Friday 25.06: post about gas cooker not allowed on-site , no lake, nos bus of hippies, and all those no-go at kiez burn. buuuh

  • Saturday 26.06: copy on the graphic: "Use your tokens" "by 30th June"

  • Sunday 27.06: copy on the graphic: "Workshops Spaces"

  • Monday 28.06: copy on the graphic: "RANGER LEADS"

  • Tuesday: 29.06: Copy on the graphic: "vote still on!"

  • Wednesday 30.06: copy on the graphic: "Last chance!"

  • Friday 09.07: " register your performance" deadline is on the 11th

  • Sunday 11.07 : LAST CHANCE! ( to register your performance)

  • Monday midday12.07 : Kieze transport ( to share the thread about kieze transport and help them organize themselves link to talk thread

  • Monday afternoon: Reminder of checking spam inbox for low incoe

  • Monday eve: free campers come together thread

  • Wednesday Morning: Program registration deadline extension

  • 19.07: opens vehicle registration

NF

Nora Flora Thu 15 Jul 2021 4:38PM

Ok, thanks for clarifying.
In that case this:

"...This Leads to a ban of open fires of any kind, gas cooker and campingstoves during build, the event and strike."

might just need to say this, right?!:

"...This Leads to a ban of open fires of any kind, gas cooker and campingstoves during build, the event and strike - unless they follow the rules below..."

Maybe @Purzel can also confirm before this is sent out tomorrow? It is just a little detail but rereading I just find it a bit confusing.

VRS

Veroca R. Sala Thu 24 Jun 2021 8:28PM

Cool. Thanks! @Myriam TheWanderer I would need these:

  • On the 16th/17th the link to registration form to prepare the blast fb and newsletter

  • I need you guys to open a thread by the 16th about this so we can link ppl to that thread if any questions.

  • The thread should contain (ideally) some material/doc/pdf/whatever with info or rules about what they can't and cannot do bla bla so to avoid ppl asking basics on social media. I could forward them to the thread with this potential document and they can find their way to the truth ❤️

    Sounds this good? What are your thought's?

MT

Myriam TheWanderer Fri 25 Jun 2021 7:18AM

@Veroca R. Sala - sounds like a plan - I am on holiday without emails etc as of today until the 5th of July. Then we can start working on this.

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Bee Thu 8 Jul 2021 5:27PM

Heya would be good if you and/or @Fabi 🦥 could please put out some kind of reminder if you can with the printed booklet deadline with details of what & where etc. :)

VRS

Veroca R. Sala Thu 8 Jul 2021 6:46PM

Yess.. Will do that! Thanks for the reminder... I completly forgot I was in charge doing telegram announcements lol !!!

VRS

Veroca R. Sala Fri 9 Jul 2021 9:24AM

went out yesterday!, will make a new announcement later as well

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Diarmaid Fri 9 Jul 2021 10:16AM

The date for refunds is Tuesday 13th July. I can just edit it myself

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JW

Jarrod Wright Fri 9 Jul 2021 7:32PM

Yeah yeah word up to the wise bird, if you wanna wiggle yah worm in the midst of the storm, you gotta wake up earlier in the morn than before you were born. - Translation: Come on hippies, make sure you meet the 11th July 23:59 Deadline to register YOUR workshop and performance for the Kiezburn 2021 Physical Program Booklet. 😄

JW

Jarrod Wright Fri 9 Jul 2021 7:36PM

As always @Veroca R. Sala ballin true! If it's not too late to edit the register your performance deadline to 11th July 23:59 for clarity ;)

VRS

Veroca R. Sala Fri 9 Jul 2021 8:46PM

Yes ill actually do it tomorrow midday 🤗

VRS

Veroca R. Sala Sun 11 Jul 2021 10:30AM

hey thanks @Purzel for all this! Do we want to maybe put all this in the survival guide as well? and/or newsletter? for a telegram announcement or Facebook post it is too much content IMO.

👉We could however put up all this info in the Fire thread and frame it in a way that is very eye catchy (if I have your permission to put my hands on your thread adding this new info) that way I could make a telegram announcement and FB post linking to the fire thread.

How do you see it?

NF

Nora Flora Thu 15 Jul 2021 5:28PM

Ok. Thank you. (I am really not questioning those measures.) Just wanted to be sure again about the wording. All good now, thank you for specifying this! Perfect.

NF

Nora Flora Thu 15 Jul 2021 5:29PM

And yes! (Regarding clarifying no open fires whatsoever...)

VRS

Veroca R. Sala Wed 21 Jul 2021 6:06PM

Yes newsletter thread + I could post on telegram and fb. What exactly do you guys want to communicate and when? Where do you wish to link ppl to?

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VRS

Veroca R. Sala Sun 25 Jul 2021 11:10AM

Awesome ❤️

we could then use the newsletter on Friday 30to launch it. I will also try recruit the german translator, otherwise, we launch the English version on Friday 30th and request for help for translation in that very announcement, so then we "re-launch" the German Version the next Friday.

I dont see any other way, worst case, we don't have the german version and we fail inclusion

C

Caroline Thu 29 Jul 2021 2:57PM

Thanks, I've found somebody already

It's becoming really late to ask ><

VRS

Veroca R. Sala Thu 29 Jul 2021 3:12PM

hey was planning to pu tup the recruitment essage when launching the English version, like "we dont have a german version yet cause no one has stepped up if you are interested bla bla bla" W have made a blast in the previous newsletter... but yeah i think someone is on it now. 👌

VRS

Veroca R. Sala Thu 17 Jun 2021 2:54PM

awesome, 24th sounds good so its gonna be a busy week with dreams voting and performances sign up, probably vehicle submission will be opening that week as well. Would you add your own timeline ( event cootd deadlines and stuff) in the event coordination thread please? so other realizers can plan accordingly https://talk.kiezburn.org/d/IvTp4cxU/event-program-coordination-

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Bee Thu 29 Jul 2021 2:44PM

Heya for outstanding Q's on the survival guide can we blast this out some time on the channels? Are there specific releases planned for the rest of this week?
👇❤️



Can someone who speaks german please make a call to the denim's taxi company to see if they operate this year and how? Survival guide says

"They will be at the Demmin train station when the trains arrive from Berlin or from the other direction (Greifswald) on Wednesday, Thursday and Friday afternoons. Saturday on demand. On Sunday they will come to the site at 4pm and then on demand and will shuttle back to the Demmin train station. 

On Wednesday they will be shuttling all the time back and forth - so there might be a short wait, yet this gives opportunities to meet other burners or see a tiny bit of Meck Pomm. :) 

● Operating hours of the taxi are: Wednesday all day (10 am - 10 pm) 

● To arrange transport outside of operating hours: Taxi Albrecht: 0172 9429569 

ATTENTION: If one of your taxi-comrade test positive to covid at the gate, you may all be asked to leave Kiez Burn

JW

Jarrod Wright Sun 20 Jun 2021 4:04PM

On it 😉

C

Caroline Sun 25 Jul 2021 10:32AM

Probably wednesday 28.07.2021 so it goes as well on the newsletter on the 30th.
I'm still waiting for a few input (covid, grey water, toilet, legal/assurance and maybe luggage pick up) so it will totally depend on these teams availability

JW

Jarrod Wright Wed 21 Jul 2021 8:30PM

@Veroca R. Sala Specifically I'm wanting to make sure that we have absolutely everything that any camp lead, realizer, dept.head etc (first aid, fire safety, swimming, sound protocols, dogs?? and such?) Really anyone who has an area of responsibility who has specific info they would like communicated to the community in the program. I have a burner email (lol) kiezburn2021program@gmail.com just will be the best place for me to compartmentalise this process, so people can just email me there. Do you think that will work?

MG

Melinda Gonzalez Wed 21 Jul 2021 8:35AM

I'd guess that could go into the Newsletter (@Nora Flora ) . Check out the Talk "Newsletter" thread

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Purzel Thu 15 Jul 2021 4:43PM

I agree but please make a desitinction in beween gas cooker and other open fires, for the second one we don´t have sufficient safety measurements and banned them entirely.

thanks for all the feedback, I think we can avoid a lot of drama by beeing very clear and dont leave room for misunderstandings ❤️

CY

CJ Yetman Sat 10 Jul 2021 1:51PM

No comment on the text, which I think is pretty good already, but… could it maybe be added to the fire safety check at the Kieze that you/they also check that each Kiez has a first aid kit?

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Purzel Sat 10 Jul 2021 4:41PM

That's a really good idea 😎

Do you mean as an obligation or a suggestion?

If it is an obligation would that be New?

CY

CJ Yetman Sat 10 Jul 2021 6:54PM

Kieze FAQ doc already says that Kieze should bring their own first aid kit, though it is arguably not in very strong words. I wouldn’t make too big of a deal about it, but if you’re already there asking about the fire extinguisher I think it makes sense to say “great, and where is your first aid kit?”

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ZJdKMwbuohCXIX9unGAHEOxo0FrWN6MSf4lXuQPwz54/edit?usp=sharing

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Purzel Sat 10 Jul 2021 8:11PM

I updated it, thanks again 😊

It's almost embarrassing that I didn't think of it myself 😅

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Purzel Sun 11 Jul 2021 12:00PM

You can spread this however you see fit, I'm happy when many people see it, because the early information might avoid discussions on site 😊

And yes, I consent that you touch, grope and form my baby at your leisure 😅

Thanks for your support in spreading and making it prettier ❤

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Purzel Sun 11 Jul 2021 12:54PM

Tagging @Nora Flora to get it in the Newsletter when it's prepared.

NF

Nora Flora Thu 15 Jul 2021 3:16PM

That was not what I asked at all. I have 0 problem with those measures.
I was just wondering if I understood right that gas cookers will only be allowed to use at level 3 or below. No gas cooking whatsoever at level 4 and 5?

NF

Nora Flora Thu 15 Jul 2021 2:01PM

Does this mean all approved gas cookers will also only be used as long as it stays at Waldbrandstufe 3 or below?! @Purzel

CY

CJ Yetman Thu 15 Jul 2021 2:30PM

Unless @Purzel responds in time with something contrary, my understanding and personal opinion is that these rules are totally reasonable even for level 3 fire hazard, not just level 5 or 4. A stable, normal height table to put it on and a fire extinguisher are common sense safety measures, and are rather reasonable requests that should be achievable by any camp.

CY

CJ Yetman Thu 15 Jul 2021 3:56PM

Sorry, I misunderstood.... I thought you meant the other way around. As I understand it, the rules as they were written were written for/with the expectation that we will be at level 4 or 5. The same rules, imo, should still apply if we were lucky and the level goes down to level 3.

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Purzel Thu 15 Jul 2021 3:56PM

I honestly don't know (and didn't find the info for MV) at which level gas cooker would be allowed.

The current approach is that we will likely look at 4-5 during the event, which equals the measurements above. No gas cookers allowed except with the mentioned safety measurements. So yes, with the measurements taken, gas cooker can be used even with a level 4-5 (I misunderstood the question as well 😅)

And generaly no bon fires or barbecues.

If we end up with 3 or less I believe it's far easier to loosen up the rules rather than trying to tighten them during the event.

CY

CJ Yetman Thu 15 Jul 2021 4:13PM

sorry, afraid there still might be confusion, so let's put it this way:

rules as stated = no gas cookers allowed except with the mentioned safety measurements here: https://talk.kiezburn.org/d/e7tCUY4X/fire-safety-and-security-

level 1: rules as stated apply (unless @Purzel changes the rules on-site and lets everyone know)
level 2: rules as stated apply (unless @Purzel changes the rules on-site and lets everyone know)
level 3: rules as stated apply (unless @Purzel changes the rules on-site and lets everyone know)
level 4: rules as stated apply
level 5: rules as stated apply

VRS

Veroca R. Sala Thu 29 Jul 2021 3:17PM

Hey, dears I am having trouble keeping this list / thread up to date, I am posting regularly. I see it would be awesome to have a spreadsheet with all the copy for announcements and dates. but its just a lot of work !!! so keep dropping here what you need me to send out and I see what i can do. ❤️

VRS

Veroca R. Sala Sun 25 Jul 2021 10:19AM

  • Sunday 25.07.2021: toilets transport from Leipzig

https://talk.kiezburn.org/d/UhuOEPa3/general-toilets-thread-key-info-here/55

  • Monday 26.07.2021: Register your Vehicle - still on time till the 28th

  • ??? Survival Guide: @Caroline When do you think it would be ready? no pressure, only to schedule the "launching" in comms!

JW

Jarrod Wright Tue 20 Jul 2021 9:32PM

@Veroca R. Sala what would be the best way for me to do a blanket shout out to all camp leads, realizers, department heads and the like with a "If you have anything you want in the program, here is how to get it to us!"?

VRS

Veroca R. Sala Tue 13 Jul 2021 11:27AM

@Rafa could you make the following graphics?:

1. Kieze

  1. Dreamers

  2. Register your vehicle

  3. Last call

  4. Last chance

  5. Registration is on

  6. Important announcement > ( this one I would like it to be slightly different to the rest to really call attention, mybe make colors more intense? not sure...)

  7. Vote! ( this can be used to vote on polls, dreams etc)

  8. Transport ( used for human transport and materials transport)

  9. Meeting

  10. Soon

  11. see you at the Playa ( this is right before the even starts)

    These could be used and reused for different purposes. Would be nice, as you have them done to upload the in the drive. So that next year, the new realizer could take the folder as inspiration!

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Purzel Sat 10 Jul 2021 1:36PM

Announcment how/whenever you see fit :)

I'd love it, if someone more creative than me could make this text more loving and creative. 😉

Fire safety

Despite the rain in the last days we are expecting a fire hazard level (Walbrandstufe) of 4 to 5 (5 beeing the highest possible one)

This Leads to a ban of open fires of any kind, gas cooker and campingstoves during build, the event and strike.

In order to keep us fed with warm food we encourage the Kieze to use electrical stoves rather than gas cooker. In order to use a gas cooker (or other flamable means to cook) we have set the following rules that will be checked during build. (https://talk.kiezburn.org/d/e7tCUY4X/fire-safety-and-security-)

  • The gas cooker need to have a stable standing itself. A lot of the more simple versions are shaped like a tower, together with a pot of food, this will be to wobbly and likely to tip over. Those won´t be allowed.

  • It needs to be on a normal height table (to have it far from the ground) that has a stable standing (no clumsy burner can tip it over).

  • A valid fireextinguisher needs to stand next to it. It needs to have at least 6l and must be placed visible and easible accessible. If you don't get a new one for 2021, please make sure that they are still valid (usually 2 years)

We understand that this creates a difficult situation to all of the free camper.

We encourage all free camper to unite and create a kitchen setup together.

If someone does, please talk to the leads of affected areas and use the thread that has been created on talk https://talk.kiezburn.org/d/Nj7rnJMc/free-campers-alone-together-co-creation-coordination

You might also consider to start a camp or join an existing one, the registration is quite easy and it comes with a lot of advantages, i.e power supply and we have many lovely spots left that could go to camps.

First aid

It´s not important if the announcements become to much.

Please remember to be self reliant and bring your own first aid supply`s such as bandages and basic pain killers as our proffessional team is hired to treat the more serious cases.

We ask all camps to provide a Standart first aid kit to their members (stored in the kitchen for example). As every car is by law required to have one, it should be easy to just use one of those and place it during the event somewhere central.

Tagging for feedback and input @CJ Yetman @Veroca R. Sala @Cairn (Clément) @Erin Jeavons-Fellows @Nora Flora ❤️

VRS

Veroca R. Sala Fri 9 Jul 2021 9:24AM

Updated this thread & requested graphics to Rafa, these will go out via telegram and Facebook: @Bee FYI

  • Monday 12.07 midday : Kieze transport ( to share the thread about kieze transport and help them organize themselves link to talk thread

  • Monday 12.07 Evening: Freecampers united!

  • Tuesday 13.07 midday: "refunds" linkinf to dreaers telegram chat

  • Tuesday evening 10.07: "Materials pool" ( for artists / kieze that want to share stuff) Spreadhseet link

  • 19.07: opens vehicle registration

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Jack Tue 6 Jul 2021 6:21PM

Hi @Veroca R. Sala please mention in the group this poll: https://talk.kiezburn.org/d/UhuOEPa3/general-toilets-thread-key-info-here/25. Please also mention that in order to vote people need to use their talk account (or sign up), join the Toilet Group (05) and the subgroup in order to vote. If they have joined the group and still cant vote we will manually invite them so their voice is heard :) The poll closes on the 17. July

MT

Myriam TheWanderer Thu 24 Jun 2021 7:41PM

@Veroca R. Sala - we are planing to open the vehicle registration form from the 19th of July until the 28th of July - we decide the week until the 4th of August and send out the permissions. If any concerns or feedback are about this, please do let me know.

VRS

Veroca R. Sala Thu 24 Jun 2021 1:36PM

updated the scheduled posts according to the last events - dreams voting postponed etc @Rafa

VRS

Veroca R. Sala Tue 22 Jun 2021 9:36AM

@Franzi

VRS

Veroca R. Sala Thu 17 Jun 2021 3:43PM

@Rafa we could start working on the graphics for next week? - Im sending you the Facebook post copy via pm telegram next Monday the 21st. June. If have a better method of working Im open to hearing, I really don't know what I am doing...

I crossed those that i have made the copy already and passed on to you.

  • Tuesday 22.06: copy on the graphic: "Prepare your tokens" "voting starts soon"

  • Wednesday 23.06 copy on the graphic: "No Bus of Hippies"

  • Thursday 24.06: thinking I will use the same announcement & Graphic to launch the dreams voting and performance registration. I'll explain all on the Fb post copy

    copy on the graphic: "Voting" & "Registering"

Do you think you can come up with a graphic that represents those two? 👆 or make like a graphic "divided in two or something? "i leave it up to you!

  • Friday 25.06: copy on the graphic: "danger" ( this post is about gas cooker not allowed - fire hazard risk

  • Saturday 26.06: copy on the graphic: "Use your tokens" "by 30th June"

  • Sunday 27.06: copy on the graphic: "Register your Performance" "by 12th July"

  • Monday 28.06: copy on the graphic: "Two days left!"

  • Wednesday 30.06: "Last chance!"

  • .

Reach out if anything is unclear! thanks rafa for helping to make these and dor being so fuc%/&/ efficient! 🎉❤️

JW

Jarrod Wright Thu 17 Jun 2021 11:22AM

@Veroca R. Sala I'm planning on the start date for submissions being the 24th June(by which I should have all my processes, info, relevant kiez/site contacts and info in place) and then closing on the 12th July. This should give time to schedule and then reschedule a few times in comms with everyone, as well as allow time for the designing and production of the actual programs.

MT

Myriam TheWanderer Thu 17 Jun 2021 11:05AM

@Veroca R. Sala will discuss this weekend and let you know latest early next week