What do we do with some of the leftover Money?
Hello Lovely Burners,
So we have some exciting news. It turns out that due to some weird circumstances, accompanied with a slightly conservative Finance Lead, there is some funds available after Kiez Burn that can be re-allocated back into the community.
I would like to invite a team of people to help shape the method and function of this redistribution process. Do we want to do this over Talk with lots of community interaction? Or perhaps re-iterate the Dreams Platform for another quick run before next years shinanigans?
Come and make it a reality. First things first, a date to meet. If you can't make the date then your digital input beforehand/during is still massively valuable! The main goal is to brainstorm together certain conditions, methods and ideas on how to go about the process, as well as to engage more people on a more personal level.
The aim isn't to exclude all those that can't physically attend, but to create a more distributed focal point and increase engagement in the process.
CAUTION: These funds would need to fit with our Vereinszweck (Association Purpose) - "Die förderung von Kunst und Kulture" (Supporting and promoting art and culture). Suggestions that fall drastically outside of this statement will likely have a harder time getting approval. (and just to inform, it is the Finanzamt you have to convince, not me, on whether a project is Art or not. Feel free to give them a call and ask their definitions... and good luck..)
ALSO: We will require all payments to be made before the end of the year (ideally before the end of November), which means so will all of the purchases.
UPDATE - The Burner Embassy Funding would be separate from this cash pool. This is an opportunity to support groups, individuals and projects within our community outside of the blatantly obvious providing a home for our community.
Thank you kindly for reading this.
(Disclaimer, we don't have the exact figure yet, as the finances are not yet finalized. But it could well be of massive support to many artists/projects running here in Berlin).
Alina, also known as Universe Fri 27 Sep 2019 12:57PM
Great! All hail conservative finance lead! It's nice to think of having some leftovers going into fostering community. Would love to see this go towards Burner Embassy (why would they reject us?) or into KiezBurn e.V funding - - or anything else - sustainable. I would not want this to go into Decom. p.s. @alexxx Idea: I would rather have this deliberation and decision happen here on Loomio - for documentation and transparency reasons. The Borderland has awesome Advice Processes - check it out here >>> https://talk.theborderland.se/advice/
Alina, also known as Universe Fri 27 Sep 2019 1:14PM
edit: have read Holger's comment now on tax complications - makes sense - plus can see from other threads now there is a discussion that need to be had on wanted/unwanted Burning Man (TM) associations of Kiez Burn....
Alex Kaos Mon 30 Sep 2019 8:55AM
The Burner Embassy funding will be a separate conversation this this one. This pool is intended as a more distributed funding opportunity.
Till Tailor Fri 27 Sep 2019 1:28PM
Give Money to the Burner Embassy.... All of us, will profit from this... <3
Alex Kaos Mon 30 Sep 2019 8:55AM
The Burner Embassy funding will be a separate conversation this this one. This pool is intended as a more distributed funding opportunity.
Electric Lazy Sat 28 Sep 2019 6:30AM
Save it for early grants next year. Building art is extremely challenging when your funding is the hope of reimbursement. Getting funds early goes a long way to building bigger better art. Just my personal thoughts from bringing art to burns around the world for the last decade.
Alex Kaos Mon 30 Sep 2019 8:50AM
Just to clarify a point. The reason I would suggest spending it this year is that anything we save we lose roughly 20% on at the end of the year due to income and corporate tax. That means if we (theoretically) had 5k to put towards next year, we immediately lose 1000€. (please not the theoretical statement in previous sentence).
Electric Lazy Mon 30 Sep 2019 9:44AM
I get it. But there is still plenty of time left this year to start a preseason grant round. Surely there are artists in the community that have reliably produced in the past. Jump starting a major endeavor over the winter could not only bring the community together for a project build throughout the year, it would help create lasting build relationships, and some kick as art. If there is one thing I've learned in my 15 years of burning, is that it is far more important for the community to build together than to just burn/party together. Seems like a good opportunity to invest in the building part.
Alex Kaos Mon 30 Sep 2019 11:35AM
That is exactly the sort of suggestion that makes sense with this funds.
Now how do we actually do it, and make sure that the artists have spent their funds by the end of the year? That's what the meeting will be in line with.
Randy Pence · Fri 27 Sep 2019 12:04PM
Just read that the association with anomalie has been terminated, so scratch that