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Water cube bulk shopping & transport

JB Joice Biazoto Public Seen by 256

Kieze interested in purchasing water cubes together for a bulk discount and getting them delivered to the site can organize this here!

more info on the water situation on site: https://www.loomio.org/d/VIwzai9N/drinking-water-planning-aquarius

Please be advised that every water cube (however the state, new or used), should be washed with a high-pressure water hose (will be available at toolhaus) and bleach! do not buy 2nd hand water cubes that contained anything but edible materials!

Storage
Cubes can be stored over the year at the shed 7km away from the site. Should be fine there.

JB

Joice Biazoto Wed 16 May 2018 9:22AM

@danielaquariusdrin does this seem like a good deal to you?

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Pauline Wed 16 May 2018 9:23AM

Oh that sounds awesome! Thanks for checking!

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Daniel Wed 16 May 2018 10:07AM

Sounds like a good deal @joicebiazoto but it doesn't explicitly say what these cubes have been used for before. So this would be something that needs to be checked by the supplier (I would ask, if it they are safe to store drinking water) before.

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Pauline Wed 16 May 2018 10:16AM

on it.

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Pauline Wed 16 May 2018 11:09AM

Ok, called the guy: The cubes have been used for food before (sunflower oil for example). They are pre-washed, but not disinfected. The other cubes that we saw on the site are also from him. They come with a disclaimer that they may only be used for rain water. If the "Gesundheitsamt" does an inspection, we are going to get in trouble if it's labeled as drinking water. @danielaquariusdrin

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Kathleen Stoeckel Wed 16 May 2018 11:18AM

An option that we are probably going to use: previously used water cube, but with renewed "Blase" (= interior of cube) and new valves etc. - price: 125 EUR. https://www.regenwassertanks-ulm.de/ibc-tank-neue-blase-1000l-trinkwassertank-auf-hol.html - no need to clean it before filling it with drinking water

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walto Wed 16 May 2018 11:19AM

hehe, the whole thing with the Gesundheitsamt is pretty funny indeed :D In Nowhere, we label all those cubes as "not drinking water" although we all drink from it and nobody ever got sick of it. Anyway, no reason to be worried about that aspect at Kiez Burn given our current size.

What is important
* The cube can only have contained food related things. (sunflower oil is borderline I guess)
* we have a high-pressure water thingy (hochdruckreiniger) and bleach on site (@danielaquariusdrin can you confirm the bleach part?). That needs to be used to was the water cube. This washing is important for both used and new water cubes.

Storage
Cubes can be stored over the year at the shed 7km away from the site. Should be fine there.

JB

Joice Biazoto Wed 16 May 2018 11:30AM

@kathleenstoeckel the cube I recommended is almost half the price and free delivery, and you will hav access to all you need to disinfect it on site. Just sayin‘ ;)

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Daniel Wed 16 May 2018 12:25PM

We will supply bleach to disinfect water containers. Any oily material is probably hard to remove completely, even with lots of detergent, given the large surface area, and the taste of rancid oil can be pretty unpleasent. Designated drinking water containers would be the safest solution. I also wouldn't lable anything as drinking water if it is not in a drinking water container but agree with Waldo here.

JB

Joice Biazoto Thu 24 May 2018 11:33AM

So, there's no interest in ordering these together, if I understand correctly? Anyone came up with a better solution and can share with other Kieze? @kathleenstoeckel @suskakinderkiez @sonjafinger @hannahkrist

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