What is our theme for KB19?
Here is a short-list of our Theme options for Kiez Burn 2019.
You can vote on multiple options, if they take your fancy. So long as you are happy and excited by the results, let any number of these options take your fancy.
Your votes will be anonymous, this is to make sure that you can vote for any option, and not just the one your friend asked you to vote for.
In order to keep things fair, we're not adding new voting options to this poll, as late-comers in the last poll caused discussion over fairness and now we're doing a new one. With advice from those who shared, we've taken the top 4 results of the last poll (because 3rd place was tied).
Background information for themes
Wild at heart
Who are you? Truly?
This embodies our adventurous move to a more decentralized and self-reliant event and community. We can embrace our new culture and support one another at our deepest cores. What is really important to us, once all the trappings and distractions are away?
Let's remove all the comforts of modern traditions, cultures and civilizations, and rebuild our collective from the self-out. A giant Tribe that looks out for each other on our quest to heal the damaged done by the rapid evolution of our species.
You truly are already you. Welcome home.
(f.y.i. The Effigy Team (same as last year's Effigy) has made a beautiful Effigy plan already built around this Theme)
This theme is a nod to both the summer solstice and the horror of first time decentralization (Org nightmare)! Let's celebrate the precious few hours of darkness that are the heart of Kiez Burn with a theme that puns upon the Shakespeare play "A Midsummer Night's Dream", but is even more fun. Midsummer Nightmare is chock full of possibilities: naughty fairies, dark horses, creepy misfits, Amazons, humans with animal heads, illusions in the woods, and comedic ceremonial confusion! (What will be the "Wrecking Ball" blooper for 2019?)
"Heimat" is an ironic take on quite a few things
Not only does it show that we're coming home (the burns being our natural environments) and not "going crazy once or twice a year", it also plays on traditional associations. "Heimat" would be associated with oompa oompa music, Bierzelt, weird traditions, rampant sexism and xenophobia. By assuming the title we're turning it on its head.
It's also food for thought on a greater societal discussion. I don't want to go into it too much, but on a socio-political level it offers a lot of space for interpretation. (Identity, Location, Nationality, Heritage, etc etc), hence preparing the ground for art to happen
It ain't english. Which is not a bad thing at all.
I think, given the decentralization, I'd rather hit everybody IN THE FACE with the news that they have to get their asses moving.
That's basically it.
I want to be able to point at the theme, laugh out aloud and then leave when somebody or someone is complaining about anything.
It's a future investment for all highly invested but 'not carrying your ass anymore' peoples.
If you think this is overly pragmatic & the intention a bit cynic for a theme for Kiez Burn - you are probably right. :)
Erin Jeavons-Fellows started a poll February 8th, 2019 13:26
What is our theme? Closed 7:00pm - Friday 22 Feb 2019
Ive added the initial ones from the minutes. Add more as you like and vote
|28 - Wild at Heart|
|3 - Dream Big|
|3 - Asylum: lunatics taking over|
|7 - Lost island|
|10 - Heimat (Not escape, but coming home)|
|14 - Do-topia - Utopia, but WE make it|
|10 - Midsummer Nightmare (Dark Faeries, Tim Burton creepy)|
|7 - Deep sea mysteries|
|4 - Ancient aliens|
|5 - Inside the Computer|
|2 - Trans Form|
|2 - Wild Dreams|
|2 - United Dreamers|
The Lord of Fire (Schatzmeister) February 9th, 2019 10:24
"Wild at Heart"
-This embodies our adventurous move to a more decentralized and self-reliant event and community. We can embrace our new culture and support one another at our cores. What is really important to us, once all the trappings and distractions are away?
Let's remove all the comforts of modern traditions, cultures and civilizations, and rebuild our collective from the self-out. A giant Tribe that looks out for each other on our quest to heal by bringing balance back into the world.
tsundee February 12th, 2019 08:07
I am missing the option "transform" (maybe spell it "Trans Form", looks cool), and the option "dream" (without the big). Don't see how to add it.
Fiete February 12th, 2019 22:54
Cris February 18th, 2019 10:32
Personally, I go for the topics I think will be easier/funnier to transform into costumes, deco and games, rather than those who are more of an abstract meta-description of our intentions. But if we go meta-abstract, it'd be also a fun challenge!
[deactivated account] February 18th, 2019 11:52
Alina February 19th, 2019 12:09
The Lord of Fire (Schatzmeister) started a proposal February 25th, 2019 17:28
Do we re-vote on the Theme for KB 2019? Closed 5:00pm - Thursday 28 Feb 2019
[propsal outcome by Alex]
Ok Guys. It looks like we have minor majority. In the interest of widening the argument it seems wise to re-vote on the Theme along with the release of the Dreams Platform and the first few Newsletters, giving everyone a chance to vote (and re-vote if they choose).
It appears there are more voices interested in a 'limited selection' vote as opposed to Henrik's Block suggestion. (do we do another poll to decide on who get's to be in the final selection? I'm all for fairness, but part of that is recognizing that hungry participants who are committed early generally contribute more than those late to the game).
Let's roll this thing out again. Multiple votes per person actually makes sense, as if you would be happy with 2 of the options you should be able to choose them.
[end of proposal outcome by alex]
[comment by henrik]
In the name of nitpicky fairness, I'd like to comment on this outcome.
It looks like we have minor majority.
not true. almost two thirds of the people who made a decision (or actually care) about this voted for a re-vote. that's a major majority.
It appears there are more voices interested in a 'limited selection' vote as opposed to Henrik's Block suggestion.
we don't know that. If you give people the option to decide between option A or B, only a very small percentage - if any at all - will go for option C. You don't know how many people prefer this suggestion unless you make it an actual option.
And why is there no way to straightforward way to comment on proposal outcomes?
[end of henrik's comment]
Here are the results from our initial Poll. 50 people voted. These results are percentages of Voters, as voters could vote for multiple themes (i.e. 28/50 = 56% of voters voted for this option)
1 - Wild at Heart - 56%
2 - Do-topia - Utopia, but WE make it - 28%
3 - Heimat (Not escape, but coming home) - 20%
3 - Midsummer Nightmare (Dark Faeries, Tim Burton creepy) - 20%
4 - Lost Island - 14%
4 - Deep sea mysteries - 14%
5 - Inside the Computer - 10%
6 - Ancient aliens - 8%
7 - Asylum: lunatics taking over & Dream Big- 6%
8 - Trans Form, Wild Dreams, United Dreamers - each 4%
Not everyone was satisfied with these results. And as a Brit from the 'remain' camp, I wish to support those that feel they've been fucked over by the voting process.
- 5% (50) of this years total burn population voted in this Theme poll, which is about double the amount that voted on last years theme.
YES = Take the top 4 and run with them
NO = I can read the statistics, why are we doing this?
Also, leave a comment if you think we should Vote on Here or on Facebook (in the event we do re-vote). I don't think we can run both.
- Pro's of Facebook = More reach
- Pro's of Talk = Higher quality votes from more reliable Participants. We can also use this to move more users onto Talk (which we will need for effective organization of the event)
|Agree - 16|
|Abstain - 6|
|Disagree - 6|
|Block - 1|
Clément Marchand Le Poittevin
February 25th, 2019 18:19
I think the voting system, although not perfect, was good and let people the possibility to change their vote if they wished to, as some did.
Wild at Heart has roughly double the votes of the second theme proposal, this is imo a clear enough lead and indicator of the wish of the community!
If we do end up revoting, I would say it's best to vote on Talk, as people take more time to make themselves a well enough matured decision than on a FB poll :)
Saskia (The Fuzzy Facilitator)
February 25th, 2019 19:13
I do understand statistics but I also do know the dreadful 'Methodenlehre'. And in fact the original polling set up was biased and skewed. The reasons for this have been outlined by Hendrik & Waldo & a couple of others.
I would also like to poke the community and friends to vote for the topic here on loomio because fuck the FB group. People are looking podcast interview partners there. Why should they have a say in the theme of an event they don't attend at?
February 25th, 2019 19:16
let's vote again, but PLEEAAAASE keep it on Talk. We want to pull more people to talk and facebook is just a mess really.... and bad for polling (I can share an article on this later how the option that gets the most votes in the first hour, almost always wins, whatever the options)