Proposal: Let’s burn Monday to Friday
Instead of our usual Wednesday to Sunday burn days, what about doing Monday to Friday instead? Build and strike are then both on weekends, easier for people who have limited work vacation weekdays. Plus, weekend warriors would now be coming for build or strike! :laughing:
Poll Created Mon 20 Jan 2020 6:06PM
Mon - Fri burn? Closed Mon 27 Jan 2020 6:00PM
Should we burn Monday to Friday at Kiez Burn 2020?
|Results||Option||% of points||Voters|
|Abstain||25.0%||4||C GE S|
|Disagree||62.5%||10||DU LN JT M H D|
|Undecided||0%||216||J SE N L C T RH J CD J NP JP H DL K L|
16 of 232 people have voted (6%)
Tue 21 Jan 2020 7:40AM
At least if we end up going back to Freiland, then this shift would mean we couldn't have music - as the direction seems to be that music during the week is a bigger issues with neighbors than music on the weekend.
Afaik we never had issues with weekend warriors either, so I'd prefer sticking with the previous Wed to Sun.
Tue 21 Jan 2020 11:14AM
Another sweet idea which I would love to happen. But I am self employed (so are you @chmac) and I assume many k-burners aren't (I believe the numbers are in the census)
A weekdays only event would be harder to attend by community members who have to take vacation to attend (regularly there are about 27 days of vacation per year).
I do agree that we need more people-power on build and strike, but this measure could violate the principle of radical inclusion.
Tue 21 Jan 2020 12:38PM
We thought about starting earlier, but that would require build to start during the weekdays in the week before and that is challenging. From an organizational POV, it makes build much harder, therefore I would advise against it. starting on the Wednesday helps to have a full 4-5 days of build with lots of people involved. Changing it to Monday start, would mean that you only have 2 days of build.
Also, I dont feel it solves a real problem.
Tue 21 Jan 2020 7:00PM
Nice idea but we have to wait for more flexibility and own choice of working days for the "office 9-to-6ers" first :(
Wed 22 Jan 2020 5:53PM
If issues arise because of the Wed-Sun timing, focus on different, more positive efforts how to solve them. If there are any issues at all. I would also see inclusion as a problem, as well as sound/neighbour related issues. CJ: Thanks for the sound meter readings. Would be amazing if we can clearly document to authorities that the neighbours complain about nothing (35db).
Thu 23 Jan 2020 6:50AM
As mentioned, it would make things harder for people working classic office hours.
However I do like the idea in terms of having more people during build/strike, and am curious as to the effect it would have on the organisation globally!
As I'm lucky enough to not be impacted either way, I'll abstain and be happy with the community's decision :)
Thu 23 Jan 2020 7:55AM
I like this idea but I will vote against because I still hope to have sound for 2 nights and if the Burn doesn’t include a Friday and Saturday night I think it will be tougher. Also, although I make my own work schedule many others do not, and need the weekend to reduce their vacation days taken.
Erin Jeavons-Fellows · Tue 21 Jan 2020 7:33PM
This is an interesting idea. In my experience from a camp perspective, the weekend warriors are harder to integrate and require additional work to onboard and get involved far less in the planning. This idea encourages people to be more included in build/strike and committed to what we create, not just for the main event but for all year round. I personally like it.
I will say I'm neutral still, but i'd love to see this experiment actually happen and see what we could create with the full man power of everyone who chooses to come to the event. Thats what its about. It may not be so inclusive but it certainly encourages more of co creation. community. civil responsibility. participation.