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Sun 2 Oct 2022 8:16PM

Closed - Kiez burn vision weekend

JF Julian Finn Public Seen by 52

This advice process has been closed. We will have the vision weekend in December 10th-11th. Sign up and details will follow soon.

TLDR: We think it might be time for a structured process regarding the future of Kiez Burn. We advocate for a strategy workshop with the goal of creating a longer term vision.

Proposers: @Julian Finn @Franzi

Proposers Roles:

Julian has been involved in KB since 2018 and was this year's welfare lead, Franzi has held multiple leading roles including being a Board member.

Who would impement this: Organizing the weekend would fall to the new board and whoever steps forward, probably Franzi

Affected: Everyone involved in Kiezburn

The Proposal:

Analysis:

Kiez Burn 2022 was a blast! Of course it was. This is not about criticizing the past year but rather about pointing out some systemic challenges. We are collecting here our observations as well as the outcomes from the leadership program and the powerful teams survey.

  • The Decentralization tends to lead to people defining their own lead roles, creating gaps and unclarities regarding responsibilities. This is mostly due to a lack of onboarding. The originally set up system of guides is not working in practise and most realizers are ‘left alone’. Roles are clearly defined but not communicated well. There is a lot of communication overhead between individual areas as well as between camps and core-orga (Korg, Board, Leads etc).

  • Orga set up: We have no clear set up for ‘how we do Kiez Burn’. We have different groups of people such as: board, korgies, leads, some form of core team etc but their roles and focus is not clarified. We have a lot of people working very, very hard to make Kiez Burn happen and burning out over it. Which leads to core people leaving every year and a lot of new people coming in. This causes us friction in: no clear roles, people don’t get onboarded, conflicts are not managed, realisers are not following the principles of Kiez Burn and doing ‘their own thing’, massive loss of knowledge and we lose amazing people. We have not managed so far to build a robust system with clear roles & responsibilities that makes people want to stay and allows us all to make Kiez Burn happen in a happy and healthy way.

  • Bureaucracy: Especially the dreams process has turned into a system where the hassle outweighs the benefits. It is easier to just self-fund (or drop) a small dream than going through the dreams platform. Creating a dream feels quite bureaucratic and un-burnery. It also favors those with a larger network and disadvantages people who are less good at communicating. To be clear: this is a structural issue.

  • Communication and ways of working: How do we store our knowledge and make it accessible? Do we still use realities? Was the launch of discord a success or a pain? What is the communication tool that serves us? How do we take decisions online together?

  • Separation from European Burner culture: KB is the fourth largest burn in Europe, yet we are more or less separate from the “rest of the scene”. With one or two exceptions there are no larger European camps or groups coming to KB, neither do KB camps tend to visit Nowhere, Borderland or other European burns. KB is extremely Berlin centric, with none of the crews from Hamburg, Cologne, Munich or other places coordinating to come. Long story short: KB somehow feels like its own thing without much of an integration and therefore not much variety.

  • Party Focus: If we want it or not: the chances of someone suddenly walking into The Observatory Friday night and getting lost in telescoping for 3 hours are fairly small. There are multiple theories why this is the case, but it is safe to say that most Kiez Burners somehow end up meandering along the underworld-musotopia axis (with wonderland / saloon as other stops) at night or just going to bed because they hate the music and there’s not much else to do.

  • Long-Term vision: Kiez Burn somehow lives from year to year, yet most of the camps have somehow been around for ages. This means that there are the same “should we get a new Gelände” debates every year and the same sort of “well, if someone did this it might be nice” responses. Yet we also don’t decide to grow, actively invite new camps or cooperate with Freiland to build new structures. All things that might be possible if we knew what we would be doing longer term.

Ideas

All these points are mere observations. To each of these there is a valid “yeah, and that is perfectly fine!” answer. And still, it feels like they could also be consciously discussed. And maybe written down somewhere.

Here are some wild ideas what a longer term vision could bring us:

  • If we were to decide to stay at Freiland for the next 5 years, we could decide to grow KB to the maximum Freiland capacity. We could talk to FL about building more permanent structures. We could focus on things such as extending the numbers of days (and be creative about how to fill them if we don’t get a sound permit). We wouldn’t even have to commit to FL with a contract. Just state intentions.

  • If we were to decide that we want to be “the german burn”, maybe other crews would put in more effort in joining. If we were to decide that we don’t want to fill that role, maybe the other crews would decide to do their own thing, which could also be totally fine

  • If we got more European camps to join us, maybe more people who only know Kiez Burn could become inspired. Start building their own stuff.

  • If we were to extend the burn to the entire week without getting more sound permits, maybe other camps could take over the Underworld space monday til wednesday.

  • If we were to change the venue, maybe we could get a “seven days including sound” permit without going on any neighbours’ nerves

Conclusion

All this means one thing: It is time to sit down and get inspired. To actually talk about the pressing questions. We’ve listed a few of them below and can imagine there’s many more. We call the KB community and Vorstand to come together, get a date and spend a weekend on a strategy workshop with the goal of creating a “Long term vision for Kiez Burn” document. Not as a fixed set of rules but rather as guidelines for where we want to go.

Some of the questions that could be discussed are:

  • What do we want KB to look like five years from now?

  • What set up do we need to get there? Board? Korg? Leads? Resuscitate guides?

  • Do we think Freiland enables or hinders us?

  • Do we wanna move site?

  • Do we want to become “the big German summer burn” or do we want to stay the way we are?

  • Do we want more outreach into the wider Burner Community? If so: How to do that?

  • Do we want more and bigger art pieces? If so: how do we want to achieve that?

  • Is three and a half days (Wednesday afternoon til Saturday night) enough or do we want to extend to five, six, seven days?

  • Do we want more sound / party? Less? Is it “too much party” or just “too little other stuff”? Or is it all just fine as is?

The workshop will be November/December from Friday - Sunday and open for everyone who wants to contribute. We will rent the Seminar House again. We will run workshops for: vision building, strategy & planning, retrospective ‘looking back to look forward’ and working out a clear set up for Kiez Burn.

EDIT:

After a discussion with Remy and Hanna Maija I am (Franzi) updating this advice process. Its to give more clarity in what we want to do.

The vision weekend will not only brainstorm on the vision of Kiez Burn but also take tangible and very concrete decisions on what our focus will be and what we will work on. eg: move site yes or no. on the back of the decisions we take the board and the kiez burn core team (whatever they ll be called) then will ensure that teams are formed that work on these initiatives and work on them themselves.

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Franzi Fri 7 Oct 2022 9:28AM

I have edited the advice process:

EDIT:

After a discussion with Remy and Hanna Maija I am (Franzi) updating this advice process. Its to give more clarity in what we want to do.

The vision weekend will not only brainstorm on the vision of Kiez Burn but also take tangible and very concrete decisions on what our focus will be and what we will work on. eg: move site yes or no. on the back of the decisions we take the board and the kiez burn core team (whatever they ll be called) then will ensure that teams are formed that work on these initiatives and work on them themselves.

AK

Alex Kaos Mon 10 Oct 2022 11:53AM

I would also like to request for an overview of the estimated cost for running such a weekend. As an e.V. member I would like to know how much such a vision would cost the Verein. Thank you. x


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Franzi Mon 10 Oct 2022 12:08PM

@Professor Kaos We had not planned on Kiez Burn eV covering costs. We would expect people to feed themselves and spit accommodation costs.

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Cris Mon 10 Oct 2022 3:10PM

Yes! Fuoaaack yeaaahsshhh!

Thank you for this initiative! ❤️ I think it really approaches many recurrent problems we drag through the years. The "how do we do KB", gathering and communication of knowledge touches me particularly.

Here there're some thoughts. The first one is a strong one, the others some further Quatsch:

  • I think this particular project should have an AG (orga group) of its own and don't fall per default on to the board

    I know the board is the keeper of the vision, tralalá, but this is its whole new thing meaning a lot of work that wasn't part of the deal, originally. New candidates to the Board shouldn't be suddenly (imo) thrown this huge hot potato just some days prior to the GA. Besides, although I understand this vision will overlap or overthrown some of the previous tasks, the fact is that so far, there is already some homework awaiting. "Oh, but they can find a korg or someone and let them do it.." Well, yes, that also takes some work, and last year for instance, it wasn't that efficient in the end. (besides, I do find it a bit cheeky to propose sth to be done by others ;)

    Disclousure: I'm stepping down, so I wouldn't have had to deal with this anyway 💃

  • I imagine this whole vision building could use more opinions and ideas than people can attend. What about an online form to gather some data that would then be discussed during the weekend? Maybe after the weekend some other wider-community move as well. (What did I say about proposing for other to do? Wait, wait, I could still even do this myself! or not..)

  • I agree with the "someone being responsible" point that @Professor Kaos mentioned. Here I'd proposed the board to be accountable for this vision (after having participated and agreed on it, selbstverständlich) Further boards should agree on the vision when they take over after the next GA.

  • Also, I'd suggest that for all the topics that weekend discuss on, there are clear and specific action points, and clear and specific roles to make sure they get fulfilled. I guess this might have been already a plan, but I'd enhance it twice as much.

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Veroca R. Sala Mon 10 Oct 2022 4:01PM

hey hey thanks for this!
I agree many of the points are worthwhile to discuss. I do recognize POV's and I aknowledge that these are conversation starters. Let's present them as such and not as proved-by-research statements. I dare to say that the easiest way to avoid confusion there is to call things as they are. The analysis are rather hypotheses points or conversation starters. IMO it doesn't really matter, but I see how people have had different experiences and opinions on what the event was like in 2022 and what the event has been before etc. I feel how these points can touch fibres in those who read it as it is presented to them now. Nevertheless, I want to believe we all understand the intentions of this proposal as something beyond a personal POV❤️

Let's not focus on the one word that triggers a high-level disagreement and focus on what we can really do together to define a vision for Kiez Burn.

Supporting this initiative so much!



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Caro T Thu 13 Oct 2022 1:13PM

Thank you. What a strong advice process and proposal. I LOVE that you two stepped up to propose this. Co-creating and voting on a Kiez Burn vision as a community - rather than the board alone at some handover weekend - will make this vision 1. Sustainable, 2. Democratic and 3. Decentralised. For that I find it essential to make this event as accessible and inclusive to as many people as possible. 

  • I would propose doing this in Berlin, to make it more accessible to burners with children, community members currently dealing with mental-health issues, people that can’t take days off work, introverts that need to recharge, people with little to no money to spare, etc.

  • I do think the e.V. should pay for this, and for that I would hope to see a budget proposal. This is a too important weekend which we should have with as many community members as possible. If we expect people to pay for accommodation, transport, and food, we end up excluding people. 

  • If the new board is to implement this, I’d ask that they also get to decide on timing and location after their election this Sunday. 

I’m adding some more content-comments below for ease of commenting.

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Caro T Thu 13 Oct 2022 1:18PM

Clearly Onboarding/Recruitment, Wisdom Transfer and Orga-Set-Up need to be done better and I look forward to co-developing them on such a weekend. These are all points that can quite beautifully be taken up by a work-force workshop weekend and result in actionable proposals and votes. Same goes for location, timing, etc

However, I fail to see why the Party Focus point is included in this. Even though I personally hardly visit the sound camps at burns, I feel uncomfortable that we’d put the actual content of a burn up for discussion. How people want to spend their time at a burn, what gifts they bring, how they express themselves (with music, visual art, workshops, bringing their kids, hiding under a rock…) is individual and grows organically. Commercial events get to decide if they are rave-focused or workshop-focused, but in our burn context, I don’t believe we have the right to make that call.

It is not safe to say that Kiez Burners are stuck between a night existence of “meandering along the underworld-musotopia axis” or hating the music and going to bed. In fact at most burns, things happen because the year before someone felt something was missing and decided to bring that very thing. Someone feels they have nothing to do at night? They can bring night-content next year.

So discussing at a workshop like this or putting to a vote, if we want more or less sound, seems inappropriate to me. Fact is, there is sound at Kiez Burn. Some love it, some hate it. More valuable would be to discuss, how we can enable as many experiences as possible, how to create a burn where both UnderWorld and The Observatory are possible, where everyone can express themselves as loud or quiet as legally possible without annoying each other? And if there is no way to do that at Freiland, then Freiland is the problem, not “the party focus.”

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Bee Tue 18 Oct 2022 10:19AM

Late to the party but happy to see this motion moving forward and looking forward to joining!!

For Berlin based venues (accessibility) ideas:

https://www.creatorshub.berlin/en/info/spaces
https://www.facebook.com/UHU.SPACE

UAB

Uli aus Berlin Tue 18 Oct 2022 11:05AM

I'm also late to the Party. When is this weekend planned?
Uli (Workshop Lead Decom)

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Hanna-Maija (Animal) Tue 18 Oct 2022 11:59AM

Heya! I have been having in-person conversations about this initiative in the last weeks and just want to drop a line here to say that I am super excited about this, want to definitely participate, can offer help organising and/or facilitating and am very motivated to find out how we can move towards a new carefully planned shiny future of Kiez Burn 🔥

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