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Sat 27 Feb 2021 10:25AM

Survival Guide 2021

VRS Veroca R. Sala Public Seen by 64

HI, here are survival Guides both in ENGLISH and GERMAN. The german version is attached as pdf scroll down to find it.

English >>> Survival Guide 2021 (google doc)

German >>> Survival Guide 2021 (is attached as a PDF) down below


Realizer @Caroline 鉂わ笍 English Version.

German Version:

Input & help from:

  • Covid-19 protocols: @Hanna-Maija (Animal), when you have the hygiene concept done, we can extract from there all relevant info

  • Sound protocols: @Quentin feugere

  • German Speaker: Someone willing to make some phone calls and check time availability and timetable from doctors near the site and transport, so that to make sure we provide the right info on the survival guide.

  • Anyone else's input is valuable, Korg, rangers, site leads....

We also need to do the German Version, No need to translate it all, as we have it from 2019 already, but we will need a german speaker to eventually add in the new info. If you are up for it, hit the comments馃檶

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Caroline Tue 27 Jul 2021 6:21PM

Up on the german speaking volunteer? Does anyone have time to call the taxi service?

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Purzel Mon 19 Jul 2021 4:22PM

I Was already wondering where I wrote this 鉂わ笍馃槄

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Veroca R. Sala Tue 20 Jul 2021 4:25PM

Hey hey. Thanks!!!

There are some ppl tagged on the comments. I suggest making the changes and once you consider is ready you could announce it and ppl would jump in to review it (or not) hehe.

There is a thread called "realizers we need you" there you could find all realizers of all areas tagged. Feel free to reach out to them.

There is a newsletter thread with the next three scheduled releases (every Friday btw) In case you want to spread the ultimate version before the event to all ticket holders

About the German version of it, we hope someone steps up otherwise there will not be a German version this year (?)

Thanks so much for stepping up 馃殌

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Purzel Thu 22 Jul 2021 8:23AM

I have plenty to add but can't figure out how to do that in the document 馃

@Dorothea would you be open to have a 20min phone call to go through my changes?

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Alex Kaos Thu 22 Jul 2021 8:55AM

You can comment for the time being I think.

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Purzel Thu 22 Jul 2021 11:27AM

Those are 2 of the things I want to change.

You can find the new rules here

My Plan is to fire my old crappy Laptop up today and send you the whole document with my change highlighted via Email.

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Purzel Thu 22 Jul 2021 11:36AM

The pharmacy is still there

The number for the dentist is invalid, I don't think it exists anymore.

The hospital is also still there

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Caroline Fri 23 Jul 2021 2:12PM

@Purzel You did well with the adjustable document !! I accepted your changes :) Thanks a lot for all the infos

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Myriam TheWanderer Fri 23 Jul 2021 4:49PM

@Caroline

I would change it the following:

Campervan Permits聽

If you wish to bring a Campervan to site you must apply for a permit beforehand. We do not guarantee that vans will be allowed onsite.聽There will be an area on the parking lot allocated for campervans as well, for that area no permits required.

If you recieved a permit you need to enter the site before Wednesday the 11th of August at noon, and leave after Sunday 10 pm.

Cars to sleep in will not be allowed to park onsite - we do not have enough space on the grounds to accommodate them. Plan to bring a tent.


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Caroline Mon 26 Jul 2021 7:43PM

Maybe @Owl (Holger) ?
The text to check is:


The law聽

All participants are reminded that you are bound by the local and national laws of Germany. Please check the local laws before you leave home.聽

Kiez Burn does not condone illegal drug use and strongly advises against individuals taking risks with their health. Please bear in mind the limited medical support on-site before you consider placing yourself at risk. Although there are many volunteers in place to assist you, in the end you are responsible for your own safety and your own actions.聽

Please be safe, be smart and have lots of fun!聽

General Disclaimer聽

ATTENDEES AGREES AND COMPLIES WITH ALL TERMS LISTED HERE:

Ticket holder (鈥淵ou鈥) voluntarily assumes all risks & danger, including personal or bodily injury or death, property loss & damage, which may occur by attending Kiez Burn 2021.聽

Ticket holder agrees that Kiez Burn e.V., associated agents & the facility owners are not responsible or liable for any damages, injuries, or claims arising from the use of this ticket and you will hold Kiez Burn e.V. harmless from any claims arising from the use of this ticket.聽

No exchange or refund if event is terminated early or cancelled due to harsh weather, fire, acts of God/nature, governmental regulation or other actions beyond Kiez Burn e.V. control.聽

Ticket needs to be purchased with ticket holder's full legal name as per passport / national ID card. No physical ticket is issued, only legal ID will be required for entry to the event. No exchange or refund if event is terminated early or cancelled due to harsh weather, fire, acts of God/nature, governmental regulation or other actions beyond Kiez Burn e.V. control.聽

Taking pictures or videos in public areas is generally not allowed, to protect the privacy of our guests. The only exceptions are the special photo booth and photographers selected by the Kiez Burn e.V.Consent is always a requirement.聽

Ticket holder understands that German law applies to all legal relations between me and the organizer Kiez Burn e.V. following my participation in the event.

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Bee Wed 28 Jul 2021 6:26PM

Thank you so much Caroline! You are a whirlwind of productive creativity and I LOVE IT. :) Let me know if you have any outstanding questions :)

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Caroline Wed 28 Jul 2021 8:37PM

You've did it already :)
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2021 is the first year that we will hire a professional first aid company. They are from Berlin, professional paramedics and will help us in need from Wednesday till Sunday around the clock.

If you or someone next to you is experiencing a medical emergency Do not call 112.

This would create a lot of hassle for the whole organisation team. You can find First Aid close to the gate (together with welfare) or contact them remotely by approaching anyone with a radio (rangers, site lead etc) or walk into any kiez. We will hand out a phone number to call them directly towards the Kieze.

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Purzel Wed 28 Jul 2021 8:41PM

Thank you and sorry for the extra hassle 馃檲鉂

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Caroline Wed 28 Jul 2021 8:47PM

Hey @Bee, nice to meet you

Yes i have a few non-answered questions! (in the order of importance)

  • Can someone who speaks german please make a call to the denim's taxi company to see if they operate this year and how? Survival guide says

    "They will be at the Demmin train station when the trains arrive from Berlin or from the other direction (Greifswald) on Wednesday, Thursday and Friday afternoons. Saturday on demand. On Sunday they will come to the site at 4pm and then on demand and will shuttle back to the Demmin train station.聽

    On Wednesday they will be shuttling all the time back and forth - so there might be a short wait, yet this gives opportunities to meet other burners or see a tiny bit of Meck Pomm. :)聽

    鈼 Operating hours of the taxi are: Wednesday all day (10 am - 10 pm)聽

    鈼 To arrange transport outside of operating hours: Taxi Albrecht: 0172 9429569聽


    ATTENTION: If one of your taxi-comrade test positive to covid at the gate, you may all be asked to leave Kiez Burn

  • what does people do when they see a problem with a toilet (lack of paper, full, etc). Survival guide says to go to the arbeitsam but there is none this year?

  • Is the covid team okay with what I wrote?

  • General disclaimer to review

Thanks a lot for any answer you might bring

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Bee Thu 29 Jul 2021 2:41PM

  • Unfortunately I am not speaking enough German for this but I'll add this to the thread for doing shout outs on social media?

  • @Dan de Lion! is doing the organising of the Kieze - one representative from each camp will be onboarded at the end of Build/start of event (unsure of when exactly). I believe they will get their info on site about these toilet upkeep tasks!

  • @Hanna-Maija (Animal) @Julian Finn are both probably super busy right now but tagging them to check the Covid updates (or perhaps someone else on the covid team can also take a look over if y'all cuties don't have the time right now).

  • General Disclaimer looks good to me. :)

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Caroline Thu 29 Jul 2021 2:48PM

I'll found some german speakers on facebook, everything allright :). (only problem is the taxi company that will have to call back tomorow... Hope It will be in time for the newsletter)

Thanks for all the infos, I've tagged Dan de Lion a faw days ago be they have not answered yet...
Someone suggested me an amelioration for covid stuff, i'll add it. The rest seems okay
Thanks for reading the general disclaimer

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Kaliope Thu 29 Jul 2021 2:52PM

I just sent a draft to the sound team and will update you later @Caroline @Nora Flora 馃摙

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Julian Finn Fri 30 Jul 2021 9:47AM

i checked it, added some minor things, lgtm.

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Cris Fri 30 Jul 2021 2:53PM

I'd suggest to send a .pdf, so people can have it also offline.

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Caroline Fri 30 Jul 2021 3:01PM

long pdf usually can't be sent on mailing list and it might be too late... But i'll see with newsletter realizer. Thanks

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Veroca R. Sala Mon 2 Aug 2021 7:36AM

here is the link to the facebook post to contact Franzisca Singer who said she had the deepl professional translator https://www.facebook.com/groups/kiezburn/posts/3050151945231080/?__cft__[0]=AZXQHZB8qUA81W2vCCWWZZmvlo1m8Bzz7Y8xO3ttbX8PkksVTSfMDWNEGziH09SBFDda59Q92R8fB5TPxku-jVxgZgzIrxGMiJem17TbPyDa6xrAOQFvHnAF08646fnjrDV67odXJje0L7FqJAhNJv&tn=%2CO%2CP-R

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Caroline Wed 4 Aug 2021 9:47AM

Hey @Lise

Thank you again for translating this!

Can you add a little message about the document + a link to share it in the Newsletter doc available here

Maybe in german because it's for non english speakers

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Bee Wed 23 Jun 2021 5:01PM

Thanks you 2! :)

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Myriam TheWanderer Thu 24 Jun 2021 8:25PM

@Bee - we dont have this area as of yet - at the moment we guess that Freecampers will be restricted at a specific camping area in the parking area - every Kiez can request a number of campers to be on site - they have to be integrated at camp. When we have the requests in we decide the number

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Veroca R. Sala Mon 19 Jul 2021 2:38PM

Hi @Dorothea so good to have you on board 馃帀

Shall we have a small phone call somewhere this week? I can give you more details. Do you use telegram? I am@VerocaRS on telegram.

You could write me there or also via email to volunteer@kiezburn.org 鉂わ笍

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Caroline Tue 20 Jul 2021 4:18PM

I've added a section at the begining about important news for this year (bring a negative covidd test at the gate ; no gas ; no bus). Because some people might miss it if read to quickly

Does the survival guide fall into the communicorns team? (my question is : should I ask @Bee to introduce me to the work to do?)

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Friso Wed 21 Jul 2021 4:19PM

This looks good to me, I ckecked the websites of those recycling facilitied and theyre still in buisness.

Also I found this:

https://www.simplegermany.com/trash-guide-germany/

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Alex Kaos Thu 22 Jul 2021 8:11AM

Updating the swimming in the lake, and adding the 'Pool Rools' (pool rules)

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Caroline Thu 22 Jul 2021 9:52AM

@Purzel you can comment or send it to me and i'll update it

<3

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Caroline Thu 22 Jul 2021 11:12AM

@Hans what are the new fire & stoves restriction. I added a "no camping gas " at the very begining of the survival guide (section "important naws for 2021" But we should also update the "cooking kit" section

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Purzel Thu 22 Jul 2021 3:17PM

Does it work like this? Sorry for making it complicated, I struggle to understand those adjustable documents 馃檮

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Caroline Sun 25 Jul 2021 7:38AM

Maybe @Annette @Kate @Jan-Christian Kaspareit ?

Sorry to hurry you but i want the guide out asap

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Caroline Sun 25 Jul 2021 7:41AM

@Friso @Annette @Kate @Jan-Christian Kaspareit

Any idea about grey water that would be produce by home-made shower in the kiez?

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Caroline Tue 27 Jul 2021 6:04PM

Thanks ! I've accepetd most of them (sound I'll do it tomorow). Love your werk, don't spend too much time on that you already have enough to do.
It's not important if parking info are not totally accurate anymore

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Cris Tue 27 Jul 2021 7:36PM

Last update about early arrival, correcting my last comment about it. Deadline is July 31st. until then it's open for ppl to apply. Sorry, last time I put my hands on that document, promised!

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Caroline Thu 29 Jul 2021 11:03AM

Yes it can be added but i would li'e the survival guide to be finished by tonight to be sent to the next newsletter... Can they make a small sum-up of what they think to put in the sound protocol? There is a link to the sound thread on the survival guide, i can add the date of when it will be finished so people know when to check

Le jeu. 29 juil. 2021 脿 11:27, Kate (talk.kiezburn.org ( http://talk.kiezburn.org )) notifications@kiezburn.org a 茅crit :

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Kaliope Thu 29 Jul 2021 6:10PM

@Caroline it's not sure yet if the sound team can finalise the document until 2 August 鈥 maybe you can include this, it gives some more context:

You want to bring music? Due to some bad experiences in 2019, we have some new rules this year so that we can enjoy a smooth Burn together. There will be less overall loud times and only 4 registered "noisy" camps - always in a hollow or surrounded by trees so we can keep a good relationship with the neighbors. In all other areas:

DO's | Ambience music while having your brunch or in a chill space, quiet music that supports a workshop or performance, microphone on a small amp, small bluetooth speakers (JBL charge 4 or similar), acoustic instruments, small drums/percussions.

DONT's | Any sort of dancefloorish atmosphere. If you are having a party, it鈥檚 probably already too loud. Large drum set. Please don't bring a PA if you don't have a permit.

Where will the rangers draw the line? Firstly with common sense, respect towards community and mutual understanding of what is reasonably quiet. Unfortunately, this location doesn't allow a full self expression for all. Let's enjoy being together and remember that we do all this because we had issues in the past and don't want the event to be shut down because of noise complaints.

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Caroline Thu 29 Jul 2021 6:30PM

you've did it already right? Do we share the link so we can change stuff afterward or do we send a pdf?

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Caroline Thu 29 Jul 2021 6:45PM

Thanks! I've added a section with all of that in general advices and I've let the sound planning in the sleeping paragraph

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Caroline Sun 1 Aug 2021 8:36PM

Hi Dorothea!

I hope you're feeling okay now. If you're still ill or busy with other stuff, you don't have to get involved etc. Thanks for showing up, even if it's late.

I did the english version of the guide so I've put all the infos together. But nobody worked on the german version.

If you still want to do the german version I see two ways to do the things: either you start with the 2019 german version and compare it to the 2021 english version, this way you can spot the differences and include them.

Or you can ask the person on facebook who offered to pass the english version into a professional automatic translator and just review the result

<3

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Caroline Mon 2 Aug 2021 11:24AM

Updated, thank you

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Lise Thu 5 Aug 2021 8:42AM

That's done! Here's the link to the German survival guide: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1fMzCgRUXI_AlxoSPaMtahS1v3PqGn9am/view?usp=sharing

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Hanna-Maija (Animal) Wed 23 Jun 2021 2:39PM

I edited the transport part for covid safety.

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Sunniva Wed 23 Jun 2021 3:29PM

Thanks for tagging me! I have now updated the Survival Guide with a few paragraphs and sentences throughout the document to implement our dog proposal. They're currently all marked with comments in the doc 馃檪

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Veroca R. Sala Mon 19 Jul 2021 4:19PM

Cool thanks Hans!! Here I link to a comment you have made in another thread as for reference https://talk.kiezburn.org/d/w90EFymM/aligning-comms/20

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Lise Tue 3 Aug 2021 1:03PM

Hi everyone,

Here's the German version of the survival guide. Generously DeepL-ed by a fellow Burner and proofread by me, native German speaker with no qualification other than a proofreading kink. Hope it helps!

Also identified a few minor inconsistencies but already flagged those to the respective Leads or commented in the English version which I think has already been incorporated. :-)

Re general disclaimer on the last page: it's definitely an analogous translation, but if it needs to have a very specific legal terminology, I cannot guarantee that.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1fMzCgRUXI_AlxoSPaMtahS1v3PqGn9am/view?usp=sharing

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Sven Dudink Mon 2 Aug 2021 10:36AM

@Caroline i just read in the survival guide that people can only bring their electric stove when they bring their own generator, this info is not correct anymore, we actually wish to motivate people to bring electric heat plates since they are more save, and the generators are more than powerful enough to provide power to it, the only thing they have to keep in mind is, they will have to buy enough power to support their heat plate

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Dorothea Sun 1 Aug 2021 8:17PM

Hi guys, I volunteered to help with the German translation but then I got ill and other stuff got in the way so I'm a bit embarassed that I never showed up to support you guys. But if there is still anything to do, I would love to help, maybe proof read any or or all parts of the guide. Just let me know.

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Caroline Fri 30 Jul 2021 11:59AM

Survival Guide is ready!

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Veroca R. Sala Thu 29 Jul 2021 12:53PM

@Caroline make sure you share the link to the drive doc on the newsletter, but the VIEWER OR COMMENTER link. so people dont accidentally mess up all this work done 馃槻. thanks

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Kaliope Thu 29 Jul 2021 9:27AM

Dear @Caroline 馃敟 Yesterday @Quentin & @CJ Yetman have updated the sound protocol and added some missing input from the rangers perspective... it will be reviewed and finalised next week (most of the team will be afk this weekend) and then announced on Talk afterwards. Can you still add it to the survival guide? It's really important because we want to avoid a situation like in 2019 馃攰

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Purzel Wed 28 Jul 2021 6:18AM

Sorry for the late input.

Is this information included? https://talk.kiezburn.org/d/OsX6JijM/proposal-decided-handing-out-a-phonenumber-to-contact-first-aid-directly-

Basically, if participants recognize a medical issue with themselves or others and no Ranger is close. They should be able to go into whatever Kiez and get the phone number for our own first aid service there.

I'm not sure if I included that already, my head is pretty full with stuff 馃槈

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Cris Tue 27 Jul 2021 5:49PM

I made many comments on the Guide. I hope you find them ok. Thank you, @Caroline !

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Caroline Sun 25 Jul 2021 7:38PM

I need a german-speaking hero to check if this infos are still true:
Thank you thousand
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They will be at the Demmin train station when the trains arrive from Berlin or from the other direction (Greifswald) on Wednesday, Thursday and Friday afternoons. Saturday on demand. On Sunday they will come to the site at 4pm and then on demand and will shuttle back to the Demmin train station.聽

On Wednesday they will be shuttling all the time back and forth - so there might be a short wait, yet this gives opportunities meeting other burners or seeing a tiny bit of Meck Pomm. :)聽

鈼 Operating hours of the taxi are: Wednesday all day (10 am - 10 pm)聽

鈼 To arrange transport outside of operating hours: Taxi Albrecht: 0172 9429569

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Veroca R. Sala Sun 25 Jul 2021 7:22AM

Moderator: here I am pasting a conversation related to the Survival Guide from the "Realizers we need you" thread.

The mentioned conversation starts with this comment, there is an error, and Talk doesnt let me move comments from others to other threads, therefore I paste a capture.

Requesting @Alejandro, @Caroline & @Purzel to continue the conversation here 馃檹

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Caroline Fri 23 Jul 2021 4:30PM

Hey it's me again!

@Holger Wessels can you double check the "legal things" (sectione the law and general disclaimer) at the end of the survival guide?
Veroca commented that it needed to be rewied

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Caroline Fri 23 Jul 2021 2:48PM

@Myriam TheWanderer @Alejandro I'm not sure you're the right person to ask but what are the camper van potocol on site?
Survival guide says it needs to be change

current version is :
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Campervan Permits聽

If you wish to bring a Campervan to site you must park in Camper Van parking. We do not guarantee that vans will be allowed onsite.聽

Cars to sleep in will not be allowed to park onsite - we do not have enough space on the grounds to accommodate them. Plan to bring a tent.

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Veroca R. Sala Thu 22 Jul 2021 3:25PM

I Link here to a comment in another thread.

We only have 6 showers onsite: what do we do with greywater?, what do we tell people in the survival guide about the showers? How do we raise awareness about eco-friendly products

here is the comment link https://talk.kiezburn.org/d/DP9TJ0X3/site-updates-/21

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Caroline Thu 22 Jul 2021 11:26AM

Can any german-speaking hero can verify this infos dating from 2019?
Thanks a lot



In case you need a doctor, dentist or pharmacy, the nearest town is Demmin.聽

鈼 Pharmacies - there are 4 to choose from, and one open over the weekend: Pommern-Apotheke, Adolf-Pompe-Stra脽e 24, 17109 Demmin (Tel: 03998 362366)聽

鈼 Clinics: The nearest hospital is: Kreiskrankenhaus Demmin, Wollweberstra脽e 21, 17109 Demmin (Tel: 03998 4380)聽

鈼 There is also a dentist in Demmin, but it is closed on the weekends without an appointment: Zahnarztpraxis, Adolf-Pompe-Str. 25 Demmin, (Tel: 0 39 98鈥43 16 66)聽

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Caroline Wed 21 Jul 2021 8:47AM

@Friso does this part of the survival guide is still up to date ?

Also, do you have a "what goes in what bin" summary that could help non-german to sort their trash onsite ?

Thanks a lot!


Near by garbage dumping/recycling facilities:聽

Kleinanlieferbereich der OVVD GmbH - Umschlagstation Demmin

Davidsohnweg 1 - 17109 Demmin聽

Mo. bis Fr. open from 07:00 to 17:00 Uhr聽

Wertstoffhof Neubrandenburg

Ihlenfelder Stra脽e 102 - 17034 Neubrandenburg聽

Mo. bis Fr. open from 10:00 to 18:00 Uhr

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Caroline Tue 20 Jul 2021 3:39PM

Hello everyone

@Veroca R. Sala told me that i could help here with the survival guide. I can do that for the english one (i speak basic german so not enough to do it in german as well.)

I'm a bit lost, I've seen the comment about fire safety. I will update that. What about other content?
Should I write it myself as guide like the corona regulation get out?
Should I ask all the realizer to update me their regulation?

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Purzel Mon 19 Jul 2021 3:14PM

The cooking,聽 first aid and fire regulations part needs an Update 馃槉

Im happy to help but don't know where.

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Dorothea Fri 16 Jul 2021 1:30PM

Hi, I can see myself doing the additions to the German guide.

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Veroca R. Sala Wed 14 Jul 2021 10:07AM

Updated this thread: made a CALL OUT for a realizer to include all changes listed in the comments of this thread.

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Veroca R. Sala Sat 26 Jun 2021 11:33AM

add a note somewhere inthe Survival Guide: to please please use eco-friendly skin products

@Friso can we have an LNT statement about Leave No trace? ; With recommendations for camps ( we have new Kieze, first-timers ) we could provide some education material or guidelines to ensure we actually do leave no trace.

  • We want to use the fire safety water cubes as swimming pools but the water has to be poured on the land afterward. Would be nice to address this and make sure people dont forget to mind about their skin products. .

  • Maybe just an LNT thread will help for now (?)

    Thanks!馃崁

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Veroca R. Sala Mon 21 Jun 2021 8:34PM

to add the fire restriction no gas cookers for free campers

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Bee Mon 21 Jun 2021 11:53AM

Hello all. Just had a quick peek over this again. Needing some adjustments:

'No pets' @Sunniva @Veroca R. SalaSala @Hanna-Maija (Animal) please can you add the final dog protocol when ready

Also need to adjust for final swimming decision on lake. @Professor Kaos

New rescrictions on fire & stoves @Hans and First aid details update

Transport options - no bus. Do we ask to avoid public transport?

Parking info Including info on campers if rescricted to certain areas @Myriam TheWanderer @Alejandro Pereda