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Drinking water planning - Aquarius

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This is a thread where we discuss water planning in detail and provide information to the Kieze. Anyone feel free to chime in and contribute to the water planning for Kiez Burn 2018!

IMPORTANT: IT IS ADVISED THAT EVERY KIEZ GETS A WATER CUBE!

All the info:
The current water plan and important info about drinking water:: http://bit.ly/2qXGo3b

Questions?
If you have suggestions for changes, let's discuss it in this thread.

What where?
This map shows the water line and water collection points (each end of the blue line) confirmed so far from where we can distribute the water: http://bit.ly/2qYwa2n

Burning Pig
There is a workshop/discussion about drinking water planned at Burning Pig (Sunday 12:30 for 1-2 h, meeting point at the camp). Would be great to get your ideas and opinions.

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walto Tue 24 Apr 2018 4:57PM

I put in a proposal for a high water pressure washer. wonna have a look Daniel? https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1CBfQr_Lm1_moqMWm2hNc1UAQm1GemGwW6SK0CWFh6wY/edit#gid=863318234

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Daniel Tue 24 Apr 2018 8:16PM

Great, looks like this one should do the job. Thanks!

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Daniel Tue 24 Apr 2018 8:36PM

I will try to figure out how to draw the lines tomorrow. I just tried to import it from the Feiland map but didn't work. I hope i didn't screw anything up.

I will also double check the number for the budget I gave you on slack. Might be actually more than 470€ when I see the distances on the new map.

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walto Wed 25 Apr 2018 8:22AM

Thanks so much! And amazing that you will double check the budget :)

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Daniel Wed 25 Apr 2018 7:53PM

I don't have access to the map anymore so I cannot draw the water pipes at the moment. Will try again in the next days.

I checked the budget again based on the rough distance information which I gathered through the map, which does not take into account the contours, which means the real distances can be higher. I noted everything in the water plan but as I said, this is a guesstimate so far.

PE tubes: 550 m; inner diameter ID 25 mm --> 385€ or ID 20 mm → 250€ (cheaper but lower flow through) https://www.pvc-welt.de/PE-HD-100-Rohr-Druckrohr-20-x-20mm-DVGW
Hoses: 2x 50 m → 220€ but currently not available https://www.amazon.de/Berger-Trinkwasser-Schlauch-50-m-Rolle/dp/B001CUYBAM/ref=sr_1_1?s=sports&ie=UTF8&qid=1523543027&sr=1-1&keywords=50+m+schlauch
Connectors and taps: 100€ (what is needed will get clear during PigBurn)
Bleach: 25€
Total estimate: 600 - 730€

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Daniel Wed 25 Apr 2018 7:56PM

Sorry, this is more than I expected. PE tubes is a big part. I think a PE tube line to the eastern and western Kiezes would be good because the distance is too long for hoses (not that I really know that but I assume it).

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Daniel Wed 25 Apr 2018 7:58PM

Do we still want to have the info around water on this site: https://sites.google.com/view/artists-kieze/?

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walto Thu 26 Apr 2018 9:38AM

@danielaquariusdrin As discussed over the phone, here is the burning pig agenda/workshop tab: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1x83_Pc27gkOONXtOGzARXGoQIo--Afb6AQLH4bfZcyw/edit#gid=1353074681

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Daniel Fri 27 Apr 2018 6:52AM

@waldo I just saw that it is planned to dig the power lines. I assume this is gonna happen during burning pig? I was wondering if we could combine that with putting PE tubes underground for drinking water (putting them in the same trench)? I know we discussed before that we just role them back in after filling up the cubes but when we have the chance to put a drinking water line underground together with power seems to be quite handy. I think this would make sense at least for the big Kiez area in the east (in case the power line is going there). What do you think?

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Daniel Fri 27 Apr 2018 7:26AM

@waldo I am hesitant to start a new thread because I find many threads a bit overwhelming in particular when the threads are essentially about the same topic. Therefore I edited your description of this thread to show that nobody needs to read the whole discussion because everything that Kieze need to know is in the water plan which get's continuously updated. I suggest to leave it to this one thread about drinking water to keep the discussion in one thread and provide the key information in the google doc, linked in the topic.

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