Fri 30 Jul 2021 8:18AM

Campervans in Kieze

MT Myriam TheWanderer Public Seen by 136

Number of campervans applied for permits are 44 on site - would like to cut this down per camp - suggestions, feedback, ideas?


CJ Yetman Sat 31 Jul 2021 1:26AM

I only ever remember there being 4-5 camper vans on-site in the past, not 40.


Mareike Fri 30 Jul 2021 9:38PM

agree. that sounds like more than we had last year.. I would personally prefer to only have art cars or vans that have a super important purpose on site (i dont even know what that could be, maybe medical reasons or sth like kids sleeping in the van and parents should be close. Probably there are some legit reasons..). But maybe - if they don't have a proper reason why they need their car on site - then make it a requirement to make your van a fun art vehicle? :) too lazy to walk to the campervan area at night? then get a little creative! 馃槂But anyway I would just be super strict about campervans being INSIDE their designated camp area and watching out for cars being parked somewhere in the wilderness. and prepare for discussions though, I think I spent like nearly an h with one person and their vehicle last year...


CJ Yetman Fri 30 Jul 2021 6:23PM

@Cairn (Cl茅ment) is the Site Planning Lead and probably has the most skin in this game. I would guess that鈥檚 drastically too many. To me, more than one camper van in one kiez is totally unreasonable and a waste of very limited space.


CJ Yetman Sat 31 Jul 2021 9:11AM

Oh geez鈥. many/most of these will also arrive after gates open?!?! tagging @Jessie and @Cris because that鈥檚 a big burden on the Rangers.


Ale Sat 31 Jul 2021 5:32PM

Registration period is over, I fear :/

If you want to bring your vans, they will have to stay in the parking area.


CJ Yetman Sat 31 Jul 2021 8:10AM

Dang, that鈥檚 unfortunate. I definitely would have supported you in setting some reasonable limits! Next time.


Cairn (Cl茅ment) Sat 31 Jul 2021 9:06AM

I like option B.

It seems rational and acceptable to have limitations (as the space on site is really limited this year).
There could be some degree of flexibility based on the size of a camp in terms of square meters, entrusting them with the responsibility to make their space nice.
The issue I have with option A is that we'd suddenly make arriving on site with a campervan on Wednesday morning impossible, as it is something we did not communicate before and would potentially greatly impact the plans of some people (I assume).


Myriam TheWanderer Fri 30 Jul 2021 9:56PM

@CJ Yetman @Mareike - I talked to @Cairn (Cl茅ment) , but as we put no restrictions on site so far I will need to reach out to the Kieze and ask them to reduce the numbers if possible. In the end, if they have the space within their Kiez and want to have them all there, I guess it is what it is. We literally did not expect for a single camp to ask for 7 campervan permits on site though. I will ask them to "pimp" their car, but I guess the question is whether they really will do it. Still, I think 3 campervans at the most is reasonable for a camp.


CJ Yetman Sat 31 Jul 2021 1:24AM

I don鈥檛 understand the logic behind having an 鈥渙pen鈥 registration, even promoting it on FB and such, without any rules about needing to justify them and no numeric limits. Not saying that was/is your logic @Myriam TheWanderer, just can鈥檛 wrap my head around how it gets to such a point.


Myriam TheWanderer Sat 31 Jul 2021 7:33AM

@CJ Yetman it was discussed at Spark, when I brought up a restriction of campervans or rules it was shut down, and nobody backed the parking team up. I was told to take over the rules of parking of last year, and as I was not part of Korg it was really not up to me in the end. I am sure the next parking team can do it better now that we know. Its just super late now to discuss this...

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