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Do we want to have showers this year OR we want smelly creatures on the playa?

Realizer 2019 Erin Jeavon Fellows

How did Erin do this in 2019? here

Showers are a nice thing to have on-site to keep humans well-groomed.

CONFIRMED; there are showers

The responsible for Showers will figure out what is available on site and realize either fancy or basic showers for the event!

Some of the tasks/ things to figure out would be;

  • Are there shower cubicles on-site already? ask water lead @Sven Dudink

  • Greywater. ask LNT lead ( Friso, not on talk )

  • Do we need an extra budget ( Dreams) to improve the installation?


  • Showers need to be cleaned. There is a shower schedule for volunteers on site.

  • Are Volunteers needed during the event? how many?

    Yes, 8 humans

  • If showers need to be installed. Where? s

    Showers will be fixed by the landowners by the 18th July, a Kiez Burn crew will visit the site to explore the state of these

  • If showers need to be improved. Are volunteers needed on Build Period? improvement of showers should be informed to the Build Lead, the build crew should take care of that.

  • Cleaning materials available on-site + instructive for volunteers onsite (where and how to leave cleaning materials for the next volunteer shift)

  • Communicate with Wastewater responsible @Friso


Veroca R. Sala Tue 15 Jun 2021 6:10PM

interested realizer in the pipeline @Bee 馃槑


Major Tom Tue 15 Jun 2021 7:48PM

Mr. Dushkopf is reporting for duty!
I also applied to take the lead as the head of shower or "showerhead" in this department.

  • Also I already had one positive response according to one member of our camp

  • I already bought some cleansing stuff.

  • I can bring environmentally friendly disinfectant


Veroca R. Sala Wed 16 Jun 2021 7:31AM

loved the showerhead role!!!!馃槅


Veroca R. Sala Mon 21 Jun 2021 10:41AM

@MajorTom after the site visit, we figured the showers are still there! Yayy!

  • 2 shipping containers with 8 showers in it + 6 sinks

  • shower curtains are there

  • Only one shower had the shower hose and shower head, the rest were vandalized.

  • Water connection will also be discussed with @Sven Dudink

  • Pictures find here soon. But imagine it's simply a shipping container flat and simple.

According to what eric said, there is gonna be an event at Freiland soon; the showers will be improved by then. Is this correct @Jan Thomas & @Bee

  • Do we know when exactly this event will be so as to plan accordingly?


Bee Mon 21 Jun 2021 11:35AM

16th July I believe is their event. We may be able to confirm a couple of days before if we are on site for their build at all. This is correct regarding showers but I think Jan got more details than me (much Deutsch).


Major Tom Mon 21 Jun 2021 11:33PM

Nice @Jan Thomas & @Bee that means we might not need to buy new hoses and shower heads. We might need to talk to the Freiland crew after July, the 16th.

I ordered the following equipment:

  • Bio degeneratable disinfectant

  • a mop (there might be a second one soon)

  • 2 pcs. rubber Wasserschieber (I don't know the english term).

  • Some sponges

  • Hydrogen Peroxide and Scheuermilch (for deep cleaning if necessary)

  • Protective material for volunteers might be also available

Besides the water connection @Sven Dudink and some electricity for light and heating, a trolley could become handy for the shifts. Do we have something like that?


Bee Tue 22 Jun 2021 8:01AM

Haha nice to learn the German word for squeegee ;)


Veroca R. Sala Tue 22 Jun 2021 11:06AM

馃尰Hey super, keep all receipts of these purchases please!

still we need to check how is the budget for this!!! hope the spent money can be fully returned to you @Thomas Arendt. To be safe let's consult any further expense with our Schatzmeister @Professor Kaos .


The volunteer sheet is still closed.

Lets call the showers on the hill "high showers" (HS) the ones by Deine Mudda: "down showers"(DS)

  • I think 15 mins cleaning shift will not be enough.

  • I also think 2 rounds is too little. Ideally we have one cleaning in the morning, one in the afternoon, and one in the evening, no?

  • 2 hour per shift? if they do it very slow nad they stop to chat here and there, & considering tey have to walk down with the stuff

  • 2 people per shift, they, for instance, could start off with the HS and walk down to do the DS. ( leave the trolley there). The following shift will start off on the DS (where the cleaning products were left) and continue with HS; and so on and so forth.

does this make sense???

Transport of products around the site :

  • Maybe we can have a supermarket trolley?

  • or a transport trolley, this can have a box attached to it and will manage well with moving around the site. The trolley can become very bizarre if you wish Lol...

    IMO, an indoor cleaning trolley will break off easily with the uneven surfaces of the land.

    If a transport trolley is required we need to figure a way this trolley is not "borrowed" by camps and not returned or left randomly. I have one but I don't want to risk it unless there is a clear procedure to avoid this to happen ( in 2019 my cargo bike container was taken from my camp without permission and used to demoop the site and tbh honest it wasn't very well treated. I had to chase hippies running behind my cargo GGGrr... if @Sven Dudink lets me lend out our trolley, make sure the box is well attached and decorated in a way that can be identified easily as the "shower trolley" . The trolley is coming out for use last-minute after all camps are set up ( so to avoid having the trolley "borrowed" and disappeared)


Sven Dudink Tue 22 Jun 2021 4:39PM

@Thomas Arendt yeah i got a solid trolley, i don't mind you using it, it would just need some kind of marking so its purposed for toilets, and transport from berlin would be good, just write me and we ll organize it


Cris Wed 23 Jun 2021 10:23AM

I hope you don't mind me throwing an idea or two here: maybe there's no need to set a time and a duration, but rather "twice a day" or sth. On the other hand, I wouldn't be very happy if I'd had to carry a trolley up and down the hill, what about having 2 cleaning sets in each shower? In that case nice hippies can also be shortly self reliant if they find the showers very dirty.

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