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⚡Power Planning ⚡

JB Johannes Bittner Public Seen by 254

This thread is for asking power questions. Feel free to post anything that's still not clear, anything you need to have answered, anything you need help with regarding power, to this thread

Power is money

you need to pay for the power. We do this because power is the 2nd highest cost in Kiez Burn and to incentivize you to use less power & potentially move to greener alternatives (the price doubled vs. last year and will increase much more next year)
* When? Tuesday or Wednesday. The power team and the site lead will be in charge. We do not take credit cards (because Berlin). 
* How much? https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1jSLCI0LmjYb53Du0MEb6eVzfOzB8h7dGRq1kE_198LY/edit?usp=sharing

site plan

Volunteer from Kieze

You need to dig some of your own power cables. We do this because if we ask the power volunteers to dig over 2km of cables, then they will drink all of the dehydration fluid, which is not very tasty.
* When? Monday/Tuesday, potentially Wednesday. #hours depending on how far away your Kiez is.
* How? Safe from burns and driving. Tools will be available at Toolhaus. If you do not secure them enough, we will not plug in your power cable.
* What if I don't arrive until Wednesday afternoon? Then you don't get power

FAQ

Here's a roundup of what happened at Burning Pig and the questions that were floating around. If I missed something, that's what this thread is for :)

You will get one or more 230V "normal" power outlets to your Kiez. We guarantee that power will be near the edge of your Kiez (at max 10 meters away), so bring extension cords!

You need to help us with digging the trenches. We estimate this would take one person around four hours. It's not determined yet on which day help will be needed.

You need to ensure waterproofing of the electrical stuff in your Kiez! Be sure that no water gets into the connectors or the devices, as this could have short-circuity consequences.

If you don't have a power grant, unfortunately you probably won't get power. Write a mail ASAP to power@kiezburn.org in this case, maybe it's still possible.

Don't use the electrical energy for cooking, don't use toasters or hair dryers. If it has heat elements with high power usage in it, it's probably a "no". Definitely ask first.

The price you pay (20€/Kilowatt) is a flat rate, it doesn't matter how much energy you actually draw from the power grid. Please note that in the end, the total costs of our power grid will depend on the energy used, but you only have to pay the flat rate fee. If you end up using more power, so that it breaks your connection, do not count on quick re-powering.

The generators should be very quiet, definitely not as load as the smaller ones used at small outdoor raves.

Happy discussing :)

EDIT1: clarified that you might get one or more 230V power outlets for your Kiez (if you made high power request)

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walto Tue 8 May 2018 10:09AM

How do I make power cables water thight on their connecting points?

AK

Aaron Kaay Fri 11 May 2018 8:58AM

is it possible to get a 6 amper Starkstrom power socket with 380volt to our Kiez/Underworld for our soundsystem. if not, we have to organize anouther system.

AK

Aaron Kaay Fri 11 May 2018 1:34PM

oh yeah sorry, I forgot the 1 of the 16A! so yes, i mean this kind of power supply. and yes, it might increase our total power need, we are still calculating. if this is not possible, we can rent another soundsystem.

RH

Richard Hodkinson Fri 11 May 2018 3:48PM

Im not sure how to do this on mobile @waldo but we're looking for 5-800w for Curious Magic in the location!

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walto Fri 11 May 2018 5:29PM

Hey Folks, the power planning is FINAL! No further changes are planned at this point.

JC

Jag Chadha Fri 11 May 2018 5:43PM

And where are the amounts posted? I'm still not clear on how much of the power I applied for is available for Starlight.

JC

Jag Chadha Fri 11 May 2018 5:48PM

Oouf. This was true in the initial application a couple of months ago, but I was talking to my art contact person + the power team and got the impression I would have some power (as detailed in the health/safety sheet).

If I can't get power, I can try and work around it but it would reduce the complexity a lot :)

JC

Jag Chadha Fri 11 May 2018 5:51PM

The max output would be 630W (but this is lasting only a matter of minutes during the day), with the load being around 120W the rest of the time @waldo

JC

Jag Chadha Fri 11 May 2018 5:56PM

Awesome! Thanks so much for accommodating the change!

OE

Olivia Ehe Fri 11 May 2018 6:00PM

Sorry if we missed this Jag!

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