Infrastructure dreams - let's fund them!
walto
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Hey folks,
There are a couple of infrastructure dreams to which we have committed to spend Kiez Burn production tokens on. Could we, before we communicate to more ppl to please vote, attribute these tokens to those dreams?
these are the infrastructure dreams with the promised tokens:
- rangers: https://dreams.kiezburn.org/dreams/24 - 300€ - 113 tokens
- welfare: https://dreams.kiezburn.org/dreams/49 - 400€ - 151 tokens
- workshop guide booklet: https://dreams.kiezburn.org/dreams/53 - 650€ - 246 tokens
Gate related: (total 850€)
- wristbands: https://dreams.kiezburn.org/dreams/17 - 250€ - 95 tokens
- The Monkey Gate Yurt - https://dreams.kiezburn.org/dreams/16 - 600€ - 227 tokens
Background
The philosophy of putting infrastructure projects on the dreams platform was the following: KBORG funds the minimum amount and then through the dreams platform additional funds can be raised. KBORG only guarantees minimal service.
current situation We did not mean to wait so long with channelling this KBORG money to these projects, I believe we failed there timing-wise. We are now trying to get that done in the fastest way possible with the least "hurt" as possible, by doing it quickly.
what to do now? Publicly saying that we were too late with this, and these are the amounts and that we should better in the future, is the best I can see us do as of now.
walto Tue 23 Apr 2019 10:05AM
@benjaminfockersper - The reasoning of putting the infrastructure dreams on the dreams platform, was to enable these infrastructure dreams to collect more money for further upgrades than the basics provided by the production tokens.
Given that philosophy, why would we wait with adding the production tokens? This will just confuse more people... And btw: in the end we might want to add our production tokens and not be able to because it would be over the maximum...
But maybe I am not seeing it, what would be the drawback of giving those tokens now?
walto Tue 23 Apr 2019 4:02PM
Let's do our best :) Let's craft a good message here :) https://talk.kiezburn.org/d/ALZ5ncfi/dream-tokens-getting-ppl-to-vote
Daniel Regev Tue 23 Apr 2019 4:00PM
Dear @waldo , I was referring specifically to the issue of transparency & fairness around the comms withing the platform regarding KBorg funding some projects. I think it was a fail - call it a learning - I don't think the wording matters much, it has been done. Let's move on.
If it's a success in terms of transparency & fairness (and eventually more art + easier receipts process) we shall find out in the end. Therefore having these current discussions is valuable and I encourage everyone to get involved so the community decides.
Alina, also known as Universe Wed 24 Apr 2019 1:28PM
Yes @benjaminfockersper I am that no-phone person, so last year at Borderland I printed out the program two-sided on recycled paper in B&W at home and shared it with a few neighbours, too. Which was nice :)
walto Tue 23 Apr 2019 3:51PM
I do not think we are failing Daniel. The level of transparancy & fairness in this whole process is already much much higher than last years. The amount of volunteers that got involved in the process, and the amount of art grants, is much much higher than last year.
This year's process is a success thusfar. We have overlooked some aspects (which we also expected to happen), but those are learnings, and not failings.
this is Saskia's post: https://talk.kiezburn.org/d/X4aH0Aqj/what-to-do-with-leftover-dream-tokens-
Benjamin Föckersperger · Wed 24 Apr 2019 12:45PM
Upgrade suggestion = perfect.
Printing: Some people don't want their phone on burns so I suggest having paper copies for the whatwherewhen guide + big printed timesheets in a central area for everyone to look at.
Save paper but have it available for those, who want it.