PROPOSAL [Decided] Handing out a phonenumber to contact First Aid directly.
Our external First Aid company made the offer to give us a phone number that will be reachable 24/7, to be handed out to all participants and to be used to contact them directly in case of an emergency.
It brings the benefit that participants can call First Aid directly (avoiding to involve outside authorities) without having to look for someone with a radio (i.e Rangers) or runnning across the whole site.
Please note that time is really important when it comes to real emergencies (i.e. Heart attacks, unconsiosness). Minutes can decide in between life, death and long term effects.
Proposer @Purzel he/him First Aid Lead
After reveiving enough feedback I´m deciding to go with #3.
I will hand out the number towards the Kieze through our Kiezelead and suggest that Kieze will diplay or store the number at a central location in the Kiez.
The Advice Process
Information gathered before posting
I brought up this offer in the last Korg meeting and received mixed feeback and various counter ideas.
People most affected
Site Lead Lead @CJ Yetman
Ranger Lead @Jessie @Cris
Gate Lead @Mareike
Newsletter @Nora Flora
Facebook communicorn ?
Kieze Lead @Erin Jeavons-Fellows
The Board @Bee @Alejandro Pereda @Veroca R. Sala @Mareike @Jan-Christian Kaspareit @Alex @Cris
Safety Protocol Realizer @Franzi
All participants
Background
Our current ways of reporting an emergency is by finding someone with a radio or running to the First Aid Tent. The First Aid Tent will be located close to the Gate, an incident close to the former pirate kiez creates quite a long way and therefore longer time before sufficient help is provided.
A burner in panic is likely to just call 112 (the official emergency number) which creates a mess in many ways:
the Gate won't expect an arriving ambulance
the ambulance crew won't know where to go exactly
we end up having authorities on site
local paramedics are not likely to be experienced with any substance induced emergencies other than alcohol. (our own First Aid and Welfare is) Most locals don't speak any english.
Site lead/rangers/wellfare won´t be aware that something is happening and can´t initiate our own protocols
The Proposal Ideas so far + objections
Idea #1
Spread the number accross the whole event and all participants (via newsletter, Facebook and at the gate). Whoever wants to, can save the number in their phone.
Objections
Our principle is immediacy. Promoting the number could "enforce" that participants carry their cell phones around at all times, which could also lead to possible consent violations by taking pictures or videos.
Idea #2
Spread around burner phones (i.e. attached to poles) that have this number on speed dial.
Objections
We would need to get the phones + SIM cards and keep them charged and functioning as well as weather protected.
Idea #3
Hand out the number only to the Kieze Leads and promote the idea that emergencies happening within a Kiez can be reported via phone while emergencies outside a Kiez get reported over our former ways (i.e. radio or by foot).
Idea #4
Do not hand out the number and use our old ways of reporting.
Objections
It might take to long to report an emergency, which could lead to additional harm or death of a participant.
How would the proposal be implemented
Depends on the outcome.
Who would implement this proposal
I will drive this forward.
When would this proposal be implemented
I´d like to reach a decision until the 20.07.2021.
What would be the cost (time, money, effort, etc.) of this proposal
The company offers this without any additional cost, whether we need to buy phones or invest effort in promoting the number depends on the outcome.
CJ Yetman Mon 5 Jul 2021 11:27AM
I have Blau, which I believe was/is a subsidiary of E-Plus which is now owned by Telefónica
Cris Mon 5 Jul 2021 11:43AM
When I mention "promoting", I know it's maybe a bit too much of a word, but also my English it's limited. What I mean is: a phone was never of any use in a burn (officially) This would be the first time I see there's something to important to do with it. And don't like it that much, tbh..
CJ Yetman Fri 2 Jul 2021 2:55PM
yea, agreed.... report...
1. "unusual" vital signs of walk-ins
2. report all calls on the phone
It will be good to assess the usefulness of the phone number if we track all calls at least for the first year.
Bee Tue 6 Jul 2021 12:33AM
The sim cards need to be registered and linked to a person, who that person will be?
You can buy pre registered sim cards from phone shops around Karl Marx Strasse.
Veroca R. Sala Mon 12 Jul 2021 8:05PM
Is that legal? 🤔
CJ Yetman Mon 12 Jul 2021 10:57PM
I think the path of least resistance is doing without. Plus it’s less stuff for you to worry about.
Valentin_Seehausen Tue 13 Jul 2021 10:21AM
Absolutely agree. Showing a number won't promote using or carrying a phone. I would actually do at least #1, and then maybe #3 additionally. When we have the number available anyways, I would highly encourage us to also communicate it to all participants (in the program). We could for example say something like "In case of emergency please don't call 112, but our Kiezburn Emergency Service on-site under 01234567890, or reach out to a Ranger, for faster and better service. Still carrying your phone is encouraged and taking videos or pictures without explicit consent is forbidden."
CJ Yetman Tue 13 Jul 2021 11:08AM
I think since there has been some resistance to this, and no one (especially me) has offered a really smart plan of how to address those concerns adequately, it's probably best that we take the path of least resistance and only ask Kieze/Kiez Leads to have an emergency phone available.
Additionally, I would suggest that the text be along the lines of...
If there's an emergency...
Try to take yourself or the person in need directly to First Aid or Welfare, whichever is most appropriate.
If that is not feasible, try to find a/the Rangers or Site Leads and ask them to help you. They can call First Aid or Welfare on their radios.
If that is not possible or the problem is super time sensitive, you can call First Aid directly on any mobile phone at +XX XXX XXXX XXXX, but be aware that mobile service in the area is spotty at some locations. Kieze have been advised to make an emergency phone available in their Kiez for this purpose.
CJ Yetman Fri 2 Jul 2021 1:56PM
I had excellent service all over the site at Spark this year. Previous years I had practically none. I recognize that it's service provider dependent, so ymmv.
Felix H · Sun 4 Jul 2021 9:57AM
With all respect, but a fire fighter is not an emergency doctor or a paramedic who are actually provide the treatment