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Alex Wed 20 Oct 2021 11:01AM

Dear Mareike, Franzi, Vero, Alex,

thanks for your quick and profound feedback! I am not sure though if I communicated correctly what I am up for, so I trie it once more:

I am interested in a general opinion about this... if the people of Kiezburn think this is a good idea / road to go down or not. And here I think adressing especially the Vereinmembers makes sense, because as you state, Alex: It has to do with a lot of responsibility. So people who are "not even" in the Verein are of course also interesting to ask their opinion, but by and large this question would concern first and faremost the people who are also "leagaly" involved in KB. So here I would be just very interested in a general mood. this could be handeled very quickly... without discussion (for starters) to then start a discussion with the knowledge: Ok.. there is a big interest, or, Ok... there is not such a big interest/people have other things they want to focus on and another crowd is needed to pull off the project "Land". So if that is possible I would maybe just ask this very quick question at the end of the assembly.

Dream Machine / Usertesting
Our primary tests will be very short and formalized like: Tanin (our Usertester) will visit a few of you (who ever agrees... and yes, this can also be realizers and dont have to be Vereinsmitglieder, thanks for this hint) and will sit next to you while you try to create a new project, distribute tasks etc.... in a later stage the betaversion or also the alphaversion of the tool can be tested for "real stuff" but that is a plus at this point. So here I can gladly go to talk and ask around if that is generally ok with you as a Verein (starting the advice process here, asking about general concerns of me doing this).

Dream Machine / Using Forum Content for Learnings and Research
This question is also a question about asking permission / checking concerns of us wanting to do this. Also bringing this up as a possible assembly topic to might having a forum to talk to people personally about concerns or understanding. I understand that this can also be done in talk and might be more efficient. At the same time I am not sure who would be able to give this permission or what would or could allow me to do so as we are decentrally organised. The assembly and the board are the legal bodies of the Verein who formally might could give this permission, so this is why I am adressing this forum. Of course I will and can go through advice processes before. But in the end, my question is, what would be the process from my request to a clear (or anticipated) yes or no answer.

I know these questions are mostly a bit tricky as of the decentralised nature of our Verein. But that is exactly why I am adressing it to get advice especially about the processes to be adressed.

Thanks a lot and till Sunday :D


Mareike Wed 20 Oct 2021 10:12AM

additional agenda points to talk about/inform, yes. We will ask this in the beginning. Just no motions that need voting on, because members have to be informed of this one week before to be able to make up their mind about what to vote. (to my knowledge)


Franzi Wed 20 Oct 2021 10:08AM

But I thought we can still add agenda requests during the beginning of the GA. or has that changed?

I also agree with Mareike, I guess both topics are great for the advice process to get inout from all relevant people and 'not only' eV members.. cuz some of the realizers might not be eV members etc


Alex Kaos Wed 20 Oct 2021 8:36AM

Very cool Alex.

As Mareika said, the agenda closed last Saturday and I'm not sure we can bring these into the official GA. But bringing them up as as voluntary topic afterwards is possible.

Land is a huge question, and with a single-year-term board has proven very challenging. Imo the drive to purchase land should be handled by private members of the community in a different model (i.e. a cooperative), and the Verein supports with larger rent and other financial support to have the event and storage and other perks.
Otherwise you have 'new' owners of the land every year, and the board role comes with a lot more responsibility.

I am super excited to test the Dream Machine out, but it is an advice process. We should definitely inform the GA at the correct time, but it's implementation is either A - an advice process or B - a decision for specific teams to utilize (i.e. korg or board).
Ultimately users will use what they want, but if the 6 organizers putting in the most juice all commit to it, many others should get on board.


Mareike Tue 19 Oct 2021 6:52PM

Hi Alex, Thank you for bringing these to super interesting topics to the GA :) The agenda including all motions that will be presented and voted on, has been finalized on sunday as it has to be sent to the members one week before the GA. The Agenda is pretty full already, but is of course still possible to share these two topics with the assembly at the end to get feedback and maybe recruit a team. We will ask in the beginning for extra topics to be added to the agenda. But any decision (f.ex. implementing this tool) would rather take place here on talk as an Advice Process. See you sunday!


Alex Tue 19 Oct 2021 5:25PM

Hey there,
I have one question. Where can I bring in topics for the general assembly? I would have two I would like to discuss:

1. Buying land

I would like to ask the Verein how we feel about buying land as a Verein as Boarderland did (or tried). I think it would not only solve a lot of problems, but also would raise a lot of new possibilities (and would create a lot of work of course)... but I would like to see if there might will form a group who is willing to push this topic and if the Verein would back such a group.

2. Kooperation with our development of Dream Machine

I have a personal request to ask. I founded a company with two other dudes this year called "Dream Machine". We want to build a tool which can be described as a mix of a social network and a project management tool. With this tool every user can create their own interface, information is there where it is needed (not where it was posted) and with the help of an algorithm it will be possible for people with a very sturctured approach and people with a very unstructured approach to work together easyly - with noone having to change their approach. We currently are working on a MVP (minimum viable product) which is like the very basic set of functionalities. This MVP should be ready in January. With this development KB e.V. could help us a lot with the following:
a) usertesting for the need of KB - which could lead to the implementation of functions wich could be especially useful for KB Orga.
b) giving us access to the things written here in talk (anonymously) so we could have a real use case of real problems and discussion concerning projectmanagemant from which we could learn while designing the tool and take real world examples into account.

We can offer a lifelong free use for the Verein once the tool is up and running (and of all versions before of course)

I would be very happy and grateful if these two topics could be discussed and decided short and brief in the assembly. Or also here! Thanks my dears!


Nicki Tue 12 Oct 2021 1:14PM

Who was responsible for the rabbit hole at the cafe wonderland? I would love to get in touch with that person regarding some of the artwork at display there.


Nicki Tue 17 Aug 2021 6:18PM

I unsubscribed twice from getting email notifications from this thread, however, I still get email notifications. Question: How can I unsubscribe for good or who can take me off the list?


Arthur G Tue 17 Aug 2021 5:31PM

Thanks Veroca! Do you know if we have a regional Burning Man contact here in Berlin?


Veroca R. Sala Tue 17 Aug 2021 5:28PM

Hi Arthur,

I have no idea whether is happening, but for sure that question belongs somewhere else. Here we answer anything related to Kiez Burn. I hope you find where to virtually play your music. Good luck ❤️


Arthur G Tue 17 Aug 2021 8:18AM

Hi everyone. Is Virtual Burn (BRCvr 2021 Virtual Burn) happening via Berlin this year? Would love to get involved as a DJ as I won't be in LA this year for it. If so, is there a link to apply or get more information? Big thanks!


Joa Tue 10 Aug 2021 5:31PM

Anyone leaving hamburg to kiezburn on thursday by car? my train is cancelled?


Lise Tue 10 Aug 2021 4:20PM


The latest post on telegram says gates open at 12pm tomorrow. What does that mean for people with a vehicle permit but no early entry permit - what's our time window to drive on site?

We have two vehicles full of gear and people getting ready for an extra early start tomorrow so as to make it to the gate by 11 (which supposedly was the deadline for vehicles to drive on site when the plan was still that gates open at 10).

I take it we should aim for 12pm then and have some time after gates open to drive on site?



CJ Yetman Tue 10 Aug 2021 3:05PM

Transfers are closed and the name on the ticket must match the name on ID, so probably not possible unfortunately.


Annanova Tue 10 Aug 2021 2:54PM

Dear Burners, I sold my ticket to a good friend and he already paid, but today I found out that you have to transfer the ticket :(( Unfortunately that was just after 12, so too late!! I did not know that and now my name is still on it... Is he still able to go? Or is there something I can do? Thanks :)


Tante Kirsch Tue 10 Aug 2021 12:13PM

Hey :) we have a Workshop thats in the when and where guide but the time Says it lasts for 6 is only 1,5 hours.where can i change that?so happy to be on the burn soon:)


Purzel Mon 9 Aug 2021 8:37PM

You don't, feel free to stay longer and help with strike 😊


Hanna Mon 9 Aug 2021 8:21AM

When do we have to leave site on Sunday?


[deactivated account] Sun 8 Aug 2021 6:15PM

I apologize, if this lands in a string, I don`t quite know if this is a comment to Leike or starting a new string. In any case,

Dear fellow Burners, dear friends,

I write you sad to report that I have hurt a tooth and this requires immediate care. For that reason I will not be able to attend the Kiezburn. Also,the 10:00 am, Wednesday, 11 August Rodeo Workout at the Saloon won`t take place.

Thank you all for allowing me to contribute. I hope to be able to once more. Your efforts, engagement and joy will warm me every day I am not on the playa with you.

It is difficult to formulate words on the depth of this happening, but I take it as an opportunity to welcome myself and you all home, as processing this has welcomed me home, here in Frankfurt,

So I open my arms wide and say 

Welcome home, welcome home.

Welcome home, oh lovely Burners.

Welcome home.

I will be hugging you all through a pillow placed on a Hochbett post!  :) I mean it! <3

With tearful eyes,

Yours in dust and dreams,



Lieke Teunisse Sun 8 Aug 2021 1:49PM

Really? I don't need proof, that I live in Germany? Just give a address, then I can do the test for free?


Lieke Teunisse Sun 8 Aug 2021 11:56AM

Thank you, I will do!


Sunniva Sun 8 Aug 2021 7:21AM

Hi @Lieke Teunisse ! Are you on Facebook? There’s a transport group there where you might have more luck! Here’s the link:


Ania Sun 8 Aug 2021 6:04AM

You do need, and antigen is fine, i think it should be for free for u, just use some berlin friends adress.


CJ Yetman Sun 8 Aug 2021 5:15AM

You must bring proof of a negative test from less than 24 hours, even if you’re vaccinated. Read the covid faq


Lieke Teunisse Sat 7 Aug 2021 10:56PM

I have a question about testing. I'm fully vaccinated, but it says in the guide that I still need a test result. I'm from Holland. Is testing in Berlin free for me too? Of do I need to do a test in Holland? Is antigeen test good? Or does it have to be a pcr test?

I hope actually, that I don't need a test, becouse I'm vaccinated....


Lieke Teunisse Sat 7 Aug 2021 9:53PM

Heeey everybody! This is my first time to kiezburn. I'm taking a night flixbus from Amsterdam to Berlin, and I'll be in Berlin on Wednesday morning. I could take the train, but it would be wonderful to share a ride from Berlin to Kiezburn. Is this the right group to ask for a share ride? I'm looking forward to a message


Rafael Dominik Graf Sat 7 Aug 2021 11:02AM

We will be using the caravan as a kitchen in our camp (Academia Philozoophia) ...


Joa Sat 7 Aug 2021 8:14AM

Are there free Campers who wants to organize a kitchen? Or are in the process already and are open for new people and want support?


Caroline Fri 6 Aug 2021 4:10PM

my bad, i got it now.

It was just the first one from last week


Rafael Dominik Graf Fri 6 Aug 2021 10:30AM

Thank you!
Myriam answered me and it all works.


Have a fantastic burn

Am 06.08.2021 um 10:44 schrieb Veroca R. Sala ( ( ))


Caroline Fri 6 Aug 2021 9:45AM


So I'm not getting the newsletter. I've looked for ways to subscribe and i'm finding any.

Info: i've got a secondhand ticket about 2 weeks ago, that might be why

If anybody have time and access i think that's worth investigating because I'm maybe not the only one?


Myriam TheWanderer Fri 6 Aug 2021 9:36AM

Sorry, I am sending you the email now - you mail landed in Spam, and I only saw it this morning ,😕


CJ Yetman Fri 6 Aug 2021 9:35AM

Is your caravan the same thing as your car, or are they different?


Veroca R. Sala Fri 6 Aug 2021 8:44AM

I will forward your question via PM to her. If she didn't answer. Probbly is busy. I'll pin her anyways. Thanks


Rafael Dominik Graf Fri 6 Aug 2021 8:09AM

Hi guys I am part of the build crew of Academia Philozoophia. My caravan is used as a kitchen at Kiez burn. I applied for a permit and got an email approving my car for build. However Myriam Hofmeister asked me for more info about the caravan and sent me a link. This link didn't work and she didn't answer my email with the info. Am I permitted to drive the caravan to our camp? Greetings Rafael


Myriam TheWanderer Thu 5 Aug 2021 5:32AM

@Tante Kirsch If it is not in your spam folder please resend your info to with full name, Kiez, cell number and I will check my list


Veroca R. Sala Wed 4 Aug 2021 10:19PM

@Myriam TheWanderer


Tante Kirsch Wed 4 Aug 2021 8:48PM

Hey i applied for our car to be at our Camp but didnt get a Mail?i dont find it anywhere:(


Purzel Mon 2 Aug 2021 10:35PM

Someone correct me if I'm wrong but I'd say so 😉


nana303 Mon 2 Aug 2021 8:58PM

thank you Purzel - I want to sleep in
my car - is it appropriate then to stay with the
car in the parking area?

Am 02.08.21 um 22:47 schrieb Purzel


Purzel Mon 2 Aug 2021 8:47PM

There is a parkingarea in front of the gate where you can leave your car 😊

You only need the parking permit to park your car on site next to or in the camp


nana303 Mon 2 Aug 2021 5:15PM

Oops I just did get my ticket from a
friend via ticket transfer. So what does this mean for me? Where
can I park it then? Outside somewhere? I would be happy to know
more about this...

Am 02.08.21 um 18:35 schrieb Purzel


Purzel Mon 2 Aug 2021 4:35PM

Im afraid this process is already over. We are way past the deadline and this week it will be announced who got the permit.

If I remember correctly it was announced on talk/Facebook and the newsletter


nana303 Mon 2 Aug 2021 3:38PM

Hi, does anybody know when it will be possible to register my car ? I could not find any information about this on the webpage - thanks - and have a great week everybody...


[deactivated account] Mon 2 Aug 2021 1:07PM

That’s amazing Ania! Maybe I can help out somehow when I arrive ✨🙏🏼


[deactivated account] Mon 2 Aug 2021 1:06PM

Super helpful thank you a lot !

I have found a ride now and applied to a camp ♥️🙏🏼


Veroca R. Sala Mon 2 Aug 2021 7:46AM

All about site planning and its realizer here in this thread


Andre Nik Sun 1 Aug 2021 9:33PM

Yeah, there will probably be several camps doing that (your first question). If I am not mistaken, Sleepoverclub wanted to do swapping and we at Schlampagne will also have a few outfits to change…


Ania Sun 1 Aug 2021 9:17PM

there is going to be a camp with clothes swapping. I am collecting clothes for it! So dont worry, I hope u will find costumes for u. Bring something warm though, weather is unpredictable


Kitt Sun 1 Aug 2021 9:13PM

Hi there,

First, be sure to read the covid hygiene concept, as there are many rules and regulations you should keep in mind before coming to site. It's in German but you can copy it into google translate to get the general idea, if there's anything unclear or confusing perhaps ask a german speaker to explain to you in detail. - (I put this first as there might be details relating to sharing rides in here)

Have you read the survival guide? I always say to read it twice as it answers a lot of burning questions. Once you've read it twice, write down any questions you have, then try searching within talk (there is a search box at the top of the page.) This includes the sound concept and guidance on that.

Why not see if a kiez will take you? I'm not sure if there is a costume camp, you can find them listed on the website. While covid is a thing it might be difficult to make it safe to share objects like this, but you can search 'costumes' on this page and see what you find, maybe there's a workshop to make a costume piece you can find in the guide:

Ride sharing --> There was a thread here but the spreadsheet is empty: --- so maybe try the facebook group? Please see the survival guide and hygiene concept to see if there are consequences to sharing rides if someone tests positive for covid at the gate.

There's also the bellhop service for transporting luggage from the local train station, might be the best option in covid times. You might struggle to find a lift unless you're camping with folks, but I'm truly not sure! Otherwise check out the freecampers together thread there might be some kind of coordination for getting a lift somewhere.

As for a map, check this post -

Hope this helps, hope I haven't missed an important link.


Ale Sun 1 Aug 2021 9:02PM

Congrats! 🎉

  1. I’ve not heard of a camp realising that. I think there was a dream concerning outfits changes though 🤔

  2. Not sure. Maybe someone else’s knows something. ❤️

  3. If you look under „subgroups“ you can find the Sound group and a draft of the sound concepts :) Maybe you’ll get Some infos there


Ale Sun 1 Aug 2021 8:59PM

That’s the map at the moment:

Changing though. I think someone is realising a kiezburn map. ❤️


[deactivated account] Sun 1 Aug 2021 8:48PM

Oh also is there a map of the camps and places on the Kiez?


[deactivated account] Sun 1 Aug 2021 8:31PM

Hey burners !

I am so lucky I got a ticket for the Kiez last minute! Now I am wondering about a few things.

  1. Will there be such a thing as a costume tent? I am coming from my hometown and have very limited costumes but would love to express myself in different colors over there 🧚🏼

  2. Is there a main overview of people doing car sharing etc? I can only find the Facebook group but there isn’t that much action yet - maybe there is a better place to look for such things ?:)

  3. When a camp says they have a stage / music place what are the general rules for noise deadlines at night ? (If there is such)

    That’s it for now .. Thanks in advance!


Purzel Sat 31 Jul 2021 5:27PM

@Christine! The effigy Crew would like to talk to you, please reach out to me. Best over telegram


Diarmaid Sat 31 Jul 2021 5:15PM

We passed the early entry forms on to the dreamers. I don't know who applied for early entry though. My assumption is the Effigy team requires it and has requested it, though.


Veroca R. Sala Sat 31 Jul 2021 3:48PM

Hi all that cj says is correct.

Update: we just recruited a driver for the toilets. No driver needed anymore. But thanks so much for showing availability. It really means a lot.

The max number of builders per camp is 5. If your camp has a spot left for build you could come early. But you must apply today. Ask @Franzi for the form.

We dont have this form posted on social media and super promoted because we don't want to filter out a 1000 applications. This has gone out via Kieze leads and dreams. Hope you understand.

As for the effigy, the dreamer that presented the dream eventually must have requested to their dream guide x number of helping people to be onsite.

@Purzel is the effigy crew covered?

@Diarmaid did the effigy dreamer request early entry for the effigy crew?

I addition, as fyi the early entry applications end today! 😱 if help is really needed on site im sure that deadline could be flexible. But with the info I manage, we are already covered thankfully 🙌.

Hope this info helps.

Thank you and see you soon!


Christine! Sat 31 Jul 2021 2:23PM

I could definitely drive a van from just about anywhere :-D

But I'll look


CJ Yetman Sat 31 Jul 2021 2:11PM

I’m pretty sure most of the “realizer” roles that warrant early entrance have been filled (otherwise we’d be screwed less than 2 weeks from an event with 1000 people, LOL), but this is the starting point for that:

I think there was an announcement in the last 48 hours on all communication platforms (Talk, Telegram, FB, and possibly the email newsletter) looking for someone to drive a van with toilets from Leipzig (?) to KB, which would necessarily require early entry.

Otherwise you could reach out to our volunteer coordinator @Veroca R. Sala though that’s usually more for volunteer roles that don’t require early entry.


Christine! Sat 31 Jul 2021 1:24PM

So, I got my ticket fairly late, and due to organizing a burn before KiezBurn I have not yet been able to put too much effort into KiezBurn preparations, and now I am trying to help out with building both my camp and the effigy, but both already have full set of early entry thingies sorted.
So I was looking into doing some volunteering needed to be performed early entry, so I can basically kill two birds with one stone..

But with all the communications that is happening everywhere, I have no clue where to look, who to talk to, or if I should plan a nice weekend somewhere else in stead, and just arrange for my stuff (shade structure and that sort of stuff) to be picked up some other (as of yet mysterious) way.

Please advice?


nana303 Fri 30 Jul 2021 8:50PM

no just a friend wants to sell me the
ticket but we both did not really know

how to handle this...

Am 30.07.21 um 22:47 schrieb Jan Thomas


nana303 Fri 30 Jul 2021 8:47PM

great ! thanks + good night

Am 30.07.21 um 22:44 schrieb Jan Thomas


Jan Thomas Fri 30 Jul 2021 8:47PM

@Tante Kirsch it sounds like you bought it from someone via the Ticket Bazaar on Facebook. If they correctly transferred the ticket to you then you should have received an email that confirms this, and when you login to you should see your ticket listed under “My Events / Transfers”. If that's not the case first check with the seller that they have completed the transfer!


Jan Thomas Fri 30 Jul 2021 8:44PM

Yes, it is that easy! Let us know in case of any issues!


nana303 Fri 30 Jul 2021 8:28PM

Is it that easy ? I will try it,
thank's a lot !!

Am 30.07.21 um 22:25 schrieb Jan Thomas


Jan Thomas Fri 30 Jul 2021 8:24PM

Hi Nana, simply by registering an account on you have created what you need. Now you just need to get your friend to login to, click on “My Events / Transfers” and enter your email address (which you used to create your burnertickets account).


nana303 Fri 30 Jul 2021 7:46PM

yes thanks- i also did this - i thought i am too stupid to find the solution for this problem but it seems not so easy for everybody… have a great night

Am 30.07.2021 um 20:15 schrieb CJ Yetman (


CJ Yetman Fri 30 Jul 2021 6:15PM

Maybe contact their support?


nana303 Fri 30 Jul 2021 6:03PM

hi, yes i registered there already but i could not find out how to create a profile there. that’s my problem :(

Am 30.07.2021 um 19:52 schrieb Veroca R. Sala (


Veroca R. Sala Fri 30 Jul 2021 5:52PM

Hi Nana, You must have an account on



nana303 Fri 30 Jul 2021 4:19PM

Hi everybody, I am very happy that a friend of mine will give me her ticket for Kiezburn. But I could not find out how I can create a profile of myself on the webpage. I read that this is necessary for the ticket transfer. Can anybody help me and tell me how I can create a profile? That would be wonderful. I wish you all a magic summer weekend...and see you very soon on kiezburn...


Cecilia Petersen Fri 30 Jul 2021 2:52PM

Anyone travelling from Berlin to Freiland on Monday 9th and wants to join forces?


Alex Kaos Fri 30 Jul 2021 10:30AM

What waiting list? If they're legit then they would know that the Facebook Kiez Burn Ticket Bazaar is the only waiting list we have ever had.....


Alex Kaos Fri 30 Jul 2021 10:29AM

Hey @Tante Kirsch, can you send an email to with the information: the email you have registered with Burner Tickets, the payment email and type (card or paypal), and your legal name? We can look into it and see what's happened!


CJ Yetman Fri 30 Jul 2021 10:27AM

What’s the waiting list?


Richard Hodkinson Fri 30 Jul 2021 10:22AM

Several legit people are looking for the waiting list. Where is it? How do you get on it? Where is it posted about?


Veroca R. Sala Thu 29 Jul 2021 10:40PM

@Professor Kaos


Caroline Thu 29 Jul 2021 6:01PM

Do you mean the person who sold you the ticket did not sent the ticket to you? They can do via the burn tickets website if you tell them the email you used to loog in on the site.

If there is further problem (like... the person who sent sell you the ticket does not want to give you the ticket please let us know)


Tante Kirsch Thu 29 Jul 2021 4:03PM

Yes i have an Account there.but there is no ticket.maybe it was sent to the email of Facebook?i dont have Password there for the email adress.but i saw in my Account that i what can i do?


Caroline Wed 28 Jul 2021 8:20PM

Do you mean find your ticket? Have you create a account on ?


Jo Wed 28 Jul 2021 6:28PM

I have been trying to search trains to Sternfeld, Hohenmocker but it keeps telling me there aren't any...


Jo Wed 28 Jul 2021 6:25PM

HI... newbie a with a potentially stupid question... I'm trying to work out how to get to the burn if I don't have a car. I know there is a station relatively close , I think called Sternfeld... but it would seem Germany quite likes to call places Sternfeld... can someone give me a more accurate name I can search Deutsche Bahn with? Or maybe somewhere we have the train schedule already listed? Thank you!


Tante Kirsch Wed 28 Jul 2021 3:47PM

Hey you,

I bought a Ticket to kiezburn.i Used Facebook.but i really dont know how to find it.ahhhhhhhh.can someone please Help?😊greets julia


Lise Wed 28 Jul 2021 3:25PM

You could have a look at the new photos of the site and the paths on the site plan: ("pictures 23.07.21") Maybe that'll help you assess the accessibility? Looks like it would be technically possible but arduous!


Kitt Wed 28 Jul 2021 3:07PM

Hi Ania, I've got experience attending burns with ambulatory wheelchair users, sometimes on a carer ticket, but not yet at this site. I would say that if you're new to using a wheelchair or crutches it will be quite challenging (lots of upper body that you're probably not using in the same way,) but feel free to find me at the observatory or on another digital platform for a PM if you have other accessibility questions so we can share notes. I don't think there will be any accessible toilet facilities, for example (not a problem as such, but just think of all the places you'll have to navigate in a different way.) I do not think it is unmanageable however I would strongly consider the energy getting from A to B as exponentially higher than other times, and I would consider it almost essential to ask in advance if some people can commit to helping you get around. Disturbing a healing surgery on the rough ground might also be less than ideal, but I understand where you're coming from ;)

@Caroline Clemclem's powered wheelchair is very expensive and has a non-standard front wheel attachment, and I wouldn't recommend it for new users if it were easily available. But I understand why you bring it up, it is very cool :) xx


Michiel Schaeverbeke Wed 28 Jul 2021 1:02PM

This issue is solved now, thx!


Veroca R. Sala Wed 28 Jul 2021 11:10AM

Hi @Michiel Schaeverbeke what do you mean with the dashboard group? Im not sure if I understand your question correctly. happy to help you if you gave me some more context. Thank you!

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Caroline Wed 28 Jul 2021 6:38AM

I believe trycicle are better to go everywhere?

Try to send an email at and Clemclem might reply to you with good advices on wheelchairs (he goes to nowhere and creme brulée in a wheelchair)


Purzel Wed 28 Jul 2021 6:14AM

I think the effigy is planned for friday eve and we either burn it or there will be LEDs, depending on the fire regulations that day. 😊


Ania Tue 27 Jul 2021 10:05PM

thanks! now i need to find a wheelchair or an art car to drive me around)


Cris Tue 27 Jul 2021 10:02PM

The whole site is "wheel-accessible", but probably not wheelchair friendly. Meaning, that there are roads/paths to get everywhere, but the slopes may be quite difficult and the land is rough and irregular :/

Good luck on your operation!


Ania Tue 27 Jul 2021 9:11PM

Wheelchair accessibility. I urgently need a knee operation and seems like it will be two days before the Kiezburn. Nothing too serious but I will have to walk on crutches or sit in wheelchair. I absolutely cannot miss this Kiezburn, i was waiting for 2 years. How wheelchair accessible will it be? I have been there before but never looked at the space from this point of view. Thanks a lot everyone!


Cris Tue 27 Jul 2021 8:40PM

Build is quite full, but you can try your chances requesting an early arrival entry filling up this app form until July 31st. If you don't get an early entry ticket, it wont be possible to let you in before Wed 10.00


[deactivated account] Tue 27 Jul 2021 7:43PM

Hey! I was wondering how is it possible to enter on the 10th of my camp's 5 early entry passes are already taken? Will it still be possible to come one day in advance and help build my camp?:) Thanks


Veroca R. Sala Tue 27 Jul 2021 6:58PM

Yes yes. As it says in the form itself 🤓Deadline is 31st of July 🙂. Shortly after (2-3 days) Franzi will contact you


Stefan Tue 27 Jul 2021 6:47PM

is there a tentative point in time when people will be informed about their early entry request? :) Much Luv ❤️


Veroca R. Sala Tue 27 Jul 2021 3:55PM

Lol! well in that case im not sure either! @Professor Kaos @Purzel @Daisy


julia Tue 27 Jul 2021 3:40PM

Hi @Veroca R. Sala, thanks but I wasn't talking about the whole event but the actual burn/effigy/main ceremony. Will that be Friday or Saturday night?


Veroca R. Sala Tue 27 Jul 2021 2:43PM

Hey Julia!, thanks for getting so far looking for this little important piece of info.

The date is right at the top description of the planning group 2021. ( see capture below)

It is also on your ticket. 😉

But yeah, deliberately it is not on Facebook, not the Website. It has been a decision and not a mistake. Here on Talk is where we create Kiez Burn ❤️


julia Tue 27 Jul 2021 2:33PM

Hi, I was hesitant to post because this seems like a question that I should be able to find an answer to myself, but I really tried (search talk and facebook) and couldn't find one:

Which day will be the burn (if there is one) or burn-replacement activity (if there is one)?

Thanks so much!


Poll Created Tue 27 Jul 2021 2:27PM

Can we make polls within the comments of a thread? Closed Tue 27 Jul 2021 4:00PM

by Veroca R. Sala Tue 27 Jul 2021 6:54PM

We can!

Apparently, we can! @Diarmaid 🙂


Results Option Voters
Yes 2  
No 0  
Undecided 0  

2 of 2 people have voted (100%)


Veroca R. Sala Tue 27 Jul 2021 2:25PM

you could open the thread ( or use an existent-related-to-the-topic-thread ) and create the poll within the comments, no? then people could comment under it. Im pretty sure that will work.


Diarmaid Tue 27 Jul 2021 10:38AM

How do I make a poll that people can also talk on? So that people can vote, but also discuss pros and cons?


Caroline Mon 26 Jul 2021 4:31AM

Is there poster explaining consent in the toilets?

If no, can i use the newsletter to ask people for a few euros to print and laminate some to put there? (And linking to the very ugly nowhere dusty consent wiki to get education)


Bee Sun 25 Jul 2021 7:10PM

There are also at least 2 handwashing stations attached to the new toilets from Freiland (with a fancy sink set up!) :)


Purzel Thu 22 Jul 2021 8:22PM

Same here @Veroca R. Sala (careful with your energy please ❤)

@Jarrod Wright if you're realising printed out maps, I'd like 3 (first aid, security, fire department) with all the camps being named


Purzel Thu 22 Jul 2021 8:19PM

Thanks I'll do that 😊


Jarrod Wright Thu 22 Jul 2021 6:40PM

In case I have not told you before. I fcukin love the way you rock Veroca ;)


Veroca R. Sala Thu 22 Jul 2021 6:38PM

There were some rumors about a map yes yes, The mapping king who knows all placement is Clement however take a peek at the site map here 🤓 not all is fixed, I suggest you first confirm this map is correct and finalised or when will it be(?)


Jarrod Wright Thu 22 Jul 2021 6:33PM

Who is the right person to co-ordinate with the program team about the creation of the official Kiezburn 2021 map? Do we need a map, what is a map, who maps in the middle of the day anyway?


Veroca R. Sala Thu 22 Jul 2021 6:16PM

As I understand these were gonna be provided by the toilets company Finizio but they turned us down so am not sure what is the state of that atm.

We should think of the handwashing station together with the toilet unit I think.

Reach out on the toilets thread🙌


Veroca R. Sala Thu 22 Jul 2021 6:08PM

Hi Hi apologies! our Kieze Facilitator is probably partying naked at another burn at the moment and will be offline till next Monday 😆

I am here to assist you and to point out to @Relativity Rltvty who has been involved in Kieze stuff this year too.

Im happy to publish it on the production website as soon as I have access to the information. I have PM Relativity already. We are on it❤️


Tante Kirsch Thu 22 Jul 2021 5:24PM


We applied for a camp 2 days ago and didn`t get an email back and there is nothing about it on the page. Did we do something wrong or does it just take a bit? :) greets. and happy to see you there :)


Veroca R. Sala Thu 22 Jul 2021 2:00PM

@Valentin_Seehausen, thanks for asking!, what Melinda says above is correct. Unfortunately, I can't point out any particular place where you could read this "statement" but it's how it has always been. We feed the general build crew who are those that appear in this list:
Thank you❤️


Cairn (Clément) Thu 22 Jul 2021 8:55AM

My apologies for the overly long reply, somehow this one flew under my radar.
In terms of sound, any sound system louder than a small bluetooth speaker is not possible in any other spots than the ones allocated for the 4 designated sound camps this year.
You can find more information in the Sound Concept and Guidelines Thread.


Purzel Thu 22 Jul 2021 8:26AM

I can't find it anywhere 🤔

Who is organising the handwashing stations?


Melinda Gonzalez Wed 21 Jul 2021 10:53AM

There’s a kitchen thread with basic info. But the short answer is that you’ll have to feed yourselves. With the exception of anyone who has volunteered for the build team.


Valentin_Seehausen Wed 21 Jul 2021 9:38AM

Hey, I am the build lead of Bee Hive and Welfare. We all filled out the form etc. Do we have to feed ourselves on the build and strike days or will there be something like a communal kitchen? Where can I find info about it?


Melinda Gonzalez Wed 21 Jul 2021 8:47AM

I just read something on a thread (safety?) that there's a trailer on site with bees living in it. It could maybe be a good place if the bees could be removed? I know there are actually people who actively look for beehives because they want to keep them (for honey). Another idea would be to go onto the Workshops and Performances thread and ask there, although most of the spaces offered seem to be full. Monkey yurt has space but it might be too big for you? Application form is here: Another issue is covid (maybe fully enclosed spaces aren't ok this year? Tagging covid lead @Hanna-Maija (Animal) )


Veroca R. Sala Wed 21 Jul 2021 3:38AM


Veroca R. Sala Wed 21 Jul 2021 3:32AM

Yesssss!!! Only 6-8 showers onsite this year. Thank you ❤️


Nicki Tue 20 Jul 2021 9:19PM

Thanks, I'll contact Quentin then


Caroline Tue 20 Jul 2021 6:22PM

Hey awsome people

I've heard a rumor about showers: is it true that there will be only 6 showers on site?

If yes i can add it to the survival guide to encourage people to bring their own showers (anf figure out a grey water protocole)


Andre Nik Tue 20 Jul 2021 6:10PM

Hey guys, I remember a discussion about Kiezburn storage (things/infrastructure from pervious camps) and that there might be stuff left to use for this year. Where can I find information on that? Thx in advance


Ale Tue 20 Jul 2021 3:51PM

I'm guessing you should check in with the sound lead @Quentin and maybe pitch you're installation in the workshops&performances thread. The Kieze offered their spaces there. Maybe it resonates with someone ;)


Nicki Tue 20 Jul 2021 2:58PM

Hey lovely Kiezburn people,

I have a sound installation that I think would be perfect for Kiezburn and I do not know who to talk to about it. The installation is called "PerSonar - becoming sound" and is an immersive meditative, audio-haptic experience that combines chanting with computer feedback and vibrations on your body (through a subpac, a kind of subwoofer backpack). The whole experience is already created and ready to go and does not need any financing. All it would need is a space. This space needs to be rainproof and ideally a bit secluded as it is an intimate individual experiences. The more secluded it is the more people get into the experience.

So, long story short, my question is: who do I talk to about bringing a sound installation and finding a space for it!

Much love,


Lise Tue 20 Jul 2021 8:27AM

Alright, got it! Thank you! :-)


CJ Yetman Mon 19 Jul 2021 5:13PM

KB never organized a drink order for Kieze. UnderWorld did so in past years through Nordmann, but they are not doing so this year, and apparently Nordmann will not deliver to the KB site this year either. Norman also rented fridges for cheap to those Kieze that made drink orders, but since they're not delivering drinks this year, they won't be delivering fridges either.


Lise Mon 19 Jul 2021 4:28PM

Hi all!

Will it be possible to order drinks for the Kiez through KB? Apparently this was possible in 2019. We're wondering if we will have this option this year or if each Kiez needs to buy and transport their drinks to Freiland. If the answer is no, no bulk order by KB, do you know of if some Kieze are already planning to place a big order and have it delivered to Freiland?

Similar question, different subject matter: for a structure we're building we need timbers 6 m long, too long even for our rather big van. Anyone having timber delivered to Freiland?

Similar question, coming back to the drinks: do we need to find and bring our own fridges or is it possible to rent/borrow them from KB/Freiland? Also something that apparently was offered last time.

Sorry if I missed a thread, thanks in advance for guidance 🙏


Veroca R. Sala Fri 16 Jul 2021 3:49PM

Hey I guess this year we were walking faster than Realities after all, it got left behind. Lol ... I might have some pre-event stuff for you. Ill write you with more details.


Caroline Fri 16 Jul 2021 3:05PM

I'm Caroline and I just got my ticket for Kiez Burn. I'm a Nowhere veteran with organisational skills (I'm the bus lead for nowhere for 2 years pre-covid + I was finance lead for my barrio).

Do anyone need any help with anything that is not strong building skills ?
The realities website does not seems up to date and I don't know where to ask



Valentin_Seehausen Thu 15 Jul 2021 9:16AM

Give this democratic and emancipated kid some token! 💪🏻


Cris Thu 15 Jul 2021 9:06AM

Next and final Kieze meeting on July 29 th at 19:30. Hangouts link on the top of the Kieze FAQ Document (to be found in the Kieze registration and facilitation Talk thread)


CJ Yetman Wed 14 Jul 2021 5:48PM

Welfare's build team is sorted. Thanks


Basta Wed 14 Jul 2021 1:15PM



Veroca R. Sala Tue 13 Jul 2021 10:49PM

I love how native English speakers make nice combinations of words I know, but i would never put together that way ❤️


Jarrod Wright Tue 13 Jul 2021 8:32PM

It is absolutely still 'possible' but you will need to proactively reach out to the sound camps and find your slot. The programming for Kiezburn 2021 is being handled in a decentralised way with a strong emphasis on self reliance. The digital version of the program can accept new 'submissions' all the way up to and through the Burn. Definitely see the link that CJ has added above!


CJ Yetman Tue 13 Jul 2021 5:28PM

sorry, last link was wrong.... here's the thread where many camps, including sound camps, posted links for their sign-up forms:

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Veroca R. Sala Tue 13 Jul 2021 5:14PM

@Fabi 🦥 @Jarrod Wright @Kris


Basta Tue 13 Jul 2021 2:09PM

Is it still possible to apply for a DJ slot in a soundcamp?


Valentin_Seehausen Mon 12 Jul 2021 12:08PM

Where can I find the form to apply for build for our lovely Welfare team?


Stefan Sun 11 Jul 2021 2:34PM



Stefan Sun 11 Jul 2021 2:33PM

lovely thanks!


Ale Sun 11 Jul 2021 1:11PM

Tagging the finance lead @Professor Kaos


Valentin_Seehausen Sun 11 Jul 2021 1:08PM

How can I access information about the BUDGET that is allocated to the WELFARE team? How much money can we spend?


Veroca R. Sala Fri 9 Jul 2021 4:11PM

Hey thanks for passing by! im not sure we need more PA considering we try to limit our sound impact in the village this year. But i direct you the sound thread. Feel free to double check there. Thanks!!!


lisette Fri 9 Jul 2021 2:01PM

Hello, I have a PA system that is still unused in august. i would love to bring it to kiezburn. Would this be appreciated or are there enough speakers? it is a very unique and fun hornloaded system for 50-500 pax. cheers


Franzi Fri 9 Jul 2021 9:16AM

yes, just sign up there and mark yourself as dreamer


Diarmaid Fri 9 Jul 2021 9:10AM

@Franzi Do dreamers just fill in other here? Seems the right option to me as well


Alejandro Thu 8 Jul 2021 7:04PM

Hello @Stefan. You should be able to access the document now. Let me know if you have any issue. Cheers.


CJ Yetman Thu 8 Jul 2021 6:39PM

@Professor Kaos @Alejandro Pereda


CJ Yetman Thu 8 Jul 2021 6:38PM



Stefan Thu 8 Jul 2021 6:28PM

In the early entry registration form (, Question "why are you requesting early access", should people that request access as part of a dream choose "others" ? Seems like the most legit option but unsure if that is the way to do it_? Cheerssss


Stefan Thu 8 Jul 2021 6:26PM

In the Refund Guidelines ( under INVOICES, 3) there is mention of a template for ebay kleinanzeigen purchases, however I cannot access that document ( and havent been granted access yet.

Starting to source second hand/reused materials soon, so this would be important to know :) Luv!


Veroca R. Sala Wed 7 Jul 2021 12:12PM

This is how we plan the production van this year

Kieze and dreamers might have a chance to access to transport of materials to some extent and as long as they also cooperate with the coordination, drivers, and collaboration. Still is to be decided, that is why it hasn't been announced and im not sure if it will be openly announced since the potential van is not so big, is actually rather small.


Saskia Wed 7 Jul 2021 11:14AM

How many Vans are there and do dreamers have access to them?
(I assume: Production Vans & Kiez Vans, and no, Dreamers have to organize themselves and may use the 'shared materials' spreadsheet.)


Jack Tue 6 Jul 2021 7:04PM

Hi @CJ Yetman thank you for your honest comment. I will look into options (including a fundraiser if this causes budget problems) depending on the outcome of the poll.


Jack Tue 6 Jul 2021 6:23PM

Thanks @Veroca R. Sala very useful info. Ok my bad if I have just set up the poll poorly which affects voting. Lets see if this works with the promotion anyway :D


Bee Mon 5 Jul 2021 12:53PM

Awesome initiative! I am not sure if you have been at the Kieze meetings yet or been in touch with @Erin Jeavons-Fellows or @Relativity Rltvty (our Kieze Realizers) about a shout out or to direct Kieze towards your thread but these would also be good opportunities to reach out to other Kieze leads. :)

You can also connect with other Kieze and conversations in the Site Management subgroup and particularly this thread:


Veroca R. Sala Mon 5 Jul 2021 10:43AM

I see your question got lost in tags. Sorry for that. From what I understand, you want to offer a place ( pop up dancefloor) but you also want to offer a workshop/s ( for which you need space) please coordinate this here

That is 👆 the workshop thread. You should offer your space through the comments, at the same time you can search for the right spot for your workshops offered by the Kieze and sign up for those you wanna be in.

Find them all in that very thread. Once you know when and where your activities/workshops are gonna be, do sign up for the general event program so as to appear in the event program booklet (online/ paperprinted)

AND YES; please double-check the loud zone with site planning. Thanks!

Good luck!


Veroca R. Sala Mon 5 Jul 2021 9:21AM

hehe not at all, Talk is not so intuitive when it comes to the settings. Here is a thread about talk, with links to the Master User Manual from Loomio... quite a bit of useful stuff to read in there.

technically, you cannot allow anyone on a subgroup to vote on a poll.

important to know is the following

  • The members of a Group, are not necessarily members of all subgroups in it.

  • Members of the parent Group should JOIN all Subgroups in it. This is a problem we have on Talk that the subscription is no automatic, members must do this themselves. That is why I wrote this in the main:

  • People should click on "subgroups" to be able to see them all and for you to be able to tag members in the comments for example.

    Otherwise, you could always share the link to the comment where the poll is and ask people to join the subgroup to be able to participate. Note: each comment has a three dots menu to get the link.

  • When opening a new thread on the parent Group, we usually invite all members to participate. If not, then members of the group will see the thread listed among all the rest of the threads. Once people have seen or participated in the thread, this can be moved ( by moderators - admins of the group) to a specific subgroup. In this case, those that have seen that thread can be tagged in the thread even after is moved to the subgroup.

    If the thread has been opened in the subgroup for the first time, then it's harder to get the rest of the members of the main group to participate in it.

    I hope im not mistaking this information, Im quite sure this is how it works. Getting people to participate in general polls and comments takes some effort, inviting, sharing links on Facebook AND educating on these small things like join the group/ subgroup to participate 🤓


julia Sun 4 Jul 2021 11:22AM started a thread here, I will also post on facebook


CJ Yetman Sun 4 Jul 2021 8:28AM

The results of a poll are mostly irrelevant unless there’s someone able and willing to realize the “winning” option. Maybe an advice process would be a better approach?


Jack Sun 4 Jul 2021 7:28AM

Hello! Talk question. How can I allow anyone (on talk) to vote on a poll in a subgroup? I only see the option of individually inviting talk users. Sorry if I’m just being stupid...


Jarrod Wright Thu 1 Jul 2021 6:42PM

I believe since this post Berni has found his way to the right thread and has likely begun discussions with different camps :) If this is not the case Berni let me know how I can help you in anyway!


Cris Thu 1 Jul 2021 10:15AM

There are probably more people interested in this. I would suggest you open a Thread and promote it :)


Zach Dunton Thu 1 Jul 2021 9:51AM

I am also interested in this. We dont' have a driver, but I would like to split a transport for materials and gear.


julia Tue 29 Jun 2021 3:28PM

I am looking to coordinate shared transport (material, not humans) with other Kieze. I thought there was supposed to be a thread for this but maybe I dreamt that, at least I cannot find my evidence anymore.
Is there any discussion about this somewhere?
Thank you 🙏


Veroca R. Sala Mon 28 Jun 2021 12:46PM


Diarmaid Mon 28 Jun 2021 12:44PM

Good to know - is there a limit on the number of dreamers that can go to build, or does that depend on the number of camps? Also, some (most?) dreamers who would need to be there would only be there the day before or possibly the day it starts - does that make a difference to your covid calculations?


Veroca R. Sala Mon 28 Jun 2021 12:43PM

Indeed this info is correct. Information is in sync with covid protocols @Hanna-Maija (Animal) drafted with a certain number of participants on-site during Build, we counted build crew and 5 Kieze members per Kieze plus , that left us with these 49 spot for dreamers ( given we had over 60 dreams).
There is no early entry thread to make updates. So it might have gotten lost. It hasn't been also put out on the Covid Thread.

This is also not the right thread to discuss this, I invite you @Franzi , @Hanna-Maija (Animal) and @Diarmaid to talk about the early entry on the Insurance thread . Thanks


Franzi Mon 28 Jun 2021 12:30PM

@Diarmaid this information is new to me, which is surprising since I manage early entrance :) I am not sure I can confirm 49 people for dreams because we have restriction from the covid team of not more than 200. so if 25% go to dreamers, camps are really going to be suffering. not sure we can do this


Veroca R. Sala Sun 27 Jun 2021 9:46PM

@Cairn (Clément) input about loud zone? @Jarrod Wright input about workshop spaces 🤗


Bernhard Sun 27 Jun 2021 8:27PM

Hello fellow Kiez Burners,

I have some offerings that dont need funding and wanted to know how this can happen:

  1. pop up dancefloor - i would bring a sound system on batterie (two teufel rockster air, Denon prime go controller) - where and when would that be possible? I am at monkey camp ( loud zone?)

  2. Workshop: Ecstatic Breath - needs the sound system mentioned in 1.

  3. Workshop: Nonverbal Hypnosis - need quite some space outside - maybe monkey camp too, or are there bigger workshop spaces planned?

Thanks for support!

Love, Berni


Karlo Sun 27 Jun 2021 9:54AM

I like this question and idea so much!!

I would say the children needs the tokens and this is very important. Stand up for your rights kinderkiez and plan a demonstration for kinder rights


CJ Yetman Sun 27 Jun 2021 8:01AM

One of my strongest memories from my childhood is my mom telling me all the time "life isn't always fair" 😂


Diarmaid Fri 25 Jun 2021 1:37PM

From a technical point of view, she would need to have a separate email address.

If you would like to share your tokens over two accounts, let me know and I can set that up for you. It is too late to be giving out extra tokens now, but it is something that you can put in the postmortem, which can be found here:


Ania Fri 25 Jun 2021 12:50PM

i just think if a ticket has one grown up and 2 kids, would be may be possible to give like 15 or 20 euros for voting on dreams (to give kids possibility to support the kids friendly dreams). But i am just playing with idea now. Will be something for next year, I hope)


Ania Fri 25 Jun 2021 12:48PM

that's exactly what i said to my kid. She was obviously not satisfied, since it does not seem very equal. Participant is participant)
May be i will keep this idea for the next year. Because we are not only talking about small kids, we also have quite few teens participated...


CJ Yetman Fri 25 Jun 2021 12:37PM

Might be hard to justify giving kid tickets tokens/money to disperse on dreams if their tickets were 0€


Saskia Fri 25 Jun 2021 12:31PM

I can't answer definitely, but maybe from a technical POV:

Dream voting is tied to email adresses registered on burnerticket.
Since kids don't register with their own email to get their kids-ticket there is no kid-email to link up to dreams which means: No, kids cannot vote.

AFAIK they were also not able to vote in 2019 & it has never been discussed before.


Bee Fri 25 Jun 2021 12:28PM

@Diarmaid ? :)


Ania Fri 25 Jun 2021 12:03PM

DREAMS voting, my kid is quite upset that she has to share the votes with us, parents. Is it correct that kids tickets dont have possibility to support dreams?


Diarmaid Fri 25 Jun 2021 8:36AM

Early entry is possible. You do have to register beforehand (and there might be a restriction that only vaccinated people can go on build), but we have reserved up to 49 spots for dreamers on build.


Saskia Fri 25 Jun 2021 8:10AM

Is early entry to the side (aka during build) possible for dreamers or did dreamers miss the chance to sign up so they can do their installation during build?


Veroca R. Sala Thu 24 Jun 2021 5:30PM

@Melinda Gonzalez I think it best would be to post on Facebook something like

"..Hey, we are paging the dreamers of the following Dreams that are not answering emails from their guides. This is the last call, check your inbox and get in touch!

  • Benjamin- Hawkers Tray

  • Julian - Frees

  • Trippy hippy tipi town

  • Gesa - Flying Pancake station

  • Andre - Open Air Stage

  • Florian - Tantric body painting

  • Alexander - Seriously unserious bar

  • Quentin - Live music in Musotopia

Probably some friend will tell them, and you are not revealing any important personal data


Melinda Gonzalez Thu 24 Jun 2021 2:52PM

Dream Guides are urgently paging these people. If you know them, guide them to their Dream applications, where they have comments that need to be resolved. They can also get in touch via the Dreams Telegram chat here: Thank you! :Benjamin Kuran- (Hawkers Tray), Julian (Frees?)- (Trippy hippy tipi town), Gesa Loof (Flying Pancake station), Andre nikolski -(Open Air Stage), Florian Spathelf- (Tantric body painting), Alexander Paulski- (Seriously unserious bar), Quentin Feugere (Live music in Musotopia)

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Veroca R. Sala Tue 22 Jun 2021 9:19PM

Yes! Go here.

Next kieze nd kieze wanna-be meeting is next 24th at 7pm Find all info in that thread 👆


Tobi S Tue 22 Jun 2021 8:04PM

Hi everybody!

We missed the Kieze Realizers startup Meeting. Is it still possible to create a Kiez? And if so, is there a thread where can I find Information about Kiez registration, sound camps etc. or a group I can hop into for Kiez planning?

Thanks (and thanks for creating this thread) 🙂


Veroca R. Sala Mon 21 Jun 2021 10:33AM

hehe sorry if i made confusion about the power bill.. messed up with that one @Diarmaid


Diarmaid Mon 21 Jun 2021 10:32AM

No need to pay for power, it is provided. You just need to tell us the power requirements.


Cris Fri 18 Jun 2021 8:40AM

Alternatively, you can join the next Kieze Meeting on June 24th in Hangouts.

Or post in the facebook group "Kiez Burn Kieze Organizers"


CJ Yetman Fri 18 Jun 2021 7:06AM

or maybe reach out to the Kieze Facilitation Leads, because they definitely do have the ability to contact all of the camp leads en masse


CJ Yetman Fri 18 Jun 2021 7:05AM

Then I believe the most appropriate thing to do would be to start a thread on Talk, or maybe reach out to them on the Kiez Facilitation thread here on Talk.

I think because of GDPR/privacy concerns etc. it's not really realistic for KB to maintain and publicly publish a list of email addresses for camp leads.


Ania Fri 18 Jun 2021 5:42AM

Thanks a lot, I actually wanted to send an email to all of them. The link you sent has few emails. It is not for applying for a membership, it is for organising something together.


CJ Yetman Thu 17 Jun 2021 7:35PM

To see who is accepting new members?


Ania Thu 17 Jun 2021 7:14PM

where I can find emails or other contacts of the leads of all the camps? thanks!


Veroca R. Sala Wed 16 Jun 2021 9:19PM

@Sven Dudink


Pauline Wed 16 Jun 2021 6:50PM

Hi Veronica,
introducing myself: Simone I am camp lead orga within Kinderkiez since 2018 and last indeed frey marx she did a food order over metro and they delivered centrally on site. i filled out a form - still have in my google sheets.
and also freya found a women nearby the village makin fabolous bread and also ordered the fruits and vegetables from local dealers.

this should really be considered doing

and I can tell you that the central drink order via nordmann getränke was a mess, not because only they screwed a little bit up but also divers camps grabbed what they thought they ordered...

Annette had a huge amount of work with everything, i wonder if she take over this damn shit again ;)
hugs simone

Am Mi., 16. Juni 2021 um 11:39 Uhr schrieb Veroca R. Sala ( ( ))


Annette Wed 16 Jun 2021 10:04AM

Correct, Getränke Nordmann does unfortunately NOT deliver this year. Pick up might be possible. You can order at Metro, we (camp UnderWorld) will not organise it.


CJ Yetman Wed 16 Jun 2021 9:46AM

Somewhere I’ve seen already that the place we ordered drinks from last time will NOT deliver on-site this year.


Veroca R. Sala Wed 16 Jun 2021 6:58AM

So there was no central food as such, there was someone organizing a general drink order, this person was @Annette , not sure if she plans to do it this year.


Pauline Tue 15 Jun 2021 8:55PM

Hello, will there be a central food order at metro like 2019?


Veroca R. Sala Tue 15 Jun 2021 6:37AM

Yes. Do that and the dream guides will put you in touch with power lead and see if possible. I think You need funds to pay the power bill...


edward mccaughan Mon 14 Jun 2021 6:55PM

Do dreams still need to register on the dreams platform if they don't need funding? I want to bring some interactive lights and put them on the art plateau and will need power, what's the right way to go about this?


Veroca R. Sala Sat 12 Jun 2021 10:21PM

may be I am late, maybe you found you way already, but in case you haven't, here is the Kieze registration thread


Alex Kaos Thu 10 Jun 2021 7:35AM

Indeed indeed. Also Flow Camp is re-branding. We're the Promethians now! We will bravely bring the first fire to the Burn in defiance of the Gods!!!!! (If we get permission from the Amt of course.......)


Veroca R. Sala Wed 9 Jun 2021 11:17AM

There will be, @Jarrod Wright is your guy here. He is planning the sign up, this will come out soon! Thank you two!🙌


Svanu Wed 9 Jun 2021 7:41AM

Hey Alex, I'm planning on doing a handstand workshop. I don't really need anything except a space to do it since I'm freecamping. Last time I did this at Flowcamp's space, which worked out nicely and is in theme. Is this something I'll need to organise with whoever is leading Flowcamp, or will there be a general Burn-wide "sign-up your workshop form" later?


Alex Kaos Tue 8 Jun 2021 11:52AM

Really? This is the one thing you want to know that answer for? The very fact that you are asking the question is exactly what is blocking the answer from you.....


Purzel Fri 4 Jun 2021 2:46PM

What´s the meaning of life? :*


Sven Dudink Fri 4 Jun 2021 9:37AM

@Marta Oliveira in 2019 we allowed kettles in kiezes if kiezes would buy enough power for their kettle to be supported,

power costs are calculated on what your kiez will use as maximum, so if you want to use a kettle (which is around 2800W) and your fridges, maybe some lights and so on, you will need to buy 3,5KW, the price for power will this year probably be around 50~75 euro per max KW over the whole event,

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Cris Thu 3 Jun 2021 11:39AM

@Erin Jeavons-Fellows @Relativity Rltvty ?

As for the Kettle, what some do, for example, it's to heat a big pot with gas and then keep it warm in BIG Thermoflaschen. Those they have in buffets and stuff.

(This probably belongs to "9.Site Planning / Kieze Facilitation". Dont know how to move it with the phone)


CJ Yetman Thu 3 Jun 2021 10:25AM

Speaking purely from previous experience, you are totally correct about kettles (and basically anything that creates significant heat from electricity), they draw a lot of power all at once and typically we’ve been asked not to use them. @Sven Dudink may have more current/correct info.


Marta Oliveira Thu 3 Jun 2021 10:13AM

Hi guys. I have a few questions and no idea where to post this, so here it goes:
- We submitted the Kiez application for the MellowSubmarine and forgot to click the option of getting a copy- who should I get in touch with to send me one? (to Anne.kruse@posteo and/or
- Also: we need to change a few things in electricity as we have a better estimation now. Happy to change them directly in the google form or just letting you guys know.
- Are the electricity estimations regarding average or peak usage? Also: can we use kettles? This would be really useful for coffee but I'm also ware they would spike the electricity for a moment.


Paul aka Khromo Tue 18 May 2021 12:30AM

I'm Ron Bergundy?


Diarmaid Wed 31 Mar 2021 8:45AM

If you would like to bring a dream, you can register for the platform here:
You can request to join, create a dream, and a guide will be assigned to you (eventually - things are a bit up in the air at the moment with the coronavirus situation).

If you would like to become a guide (or have recommendations for our guides), the thread talk related to that is here:


[deactivated account] Tue 30 Mar 2021 4:50PM

Ok always motivated to bring a stage and after reading about the dreams guide. I was wondering how to get in touch with dreams guide?


Veroca R. Sala Wed 24 Mar 2021 8:04AM



Alex Kaos Mon 22 Mar 2021 7:29PM

We're waiting for the Sound and Health protocols to be finalized to send off to the Amt. I don't think we need the insurance right now, but thank you for checking in.


CJ Yetman Mon 22 Mar 2021 11:50AM

this timeline seems a bit out-of-date, no? has someone taken responsibility for updating it?


Owl Mon 22 Mar 2021 11:26AM

Where are we on the event permit track? Anything needed insurance-wise (besides the offer itself) for going on?


Karlo Mon 22 Mar 2021 11:19AM

Is it possible to join this build weekend at freiland?


Kaliope Sun 21 Mar 2021 3:28PM

Can someone direct me to the timeline or add these dates? I'm a little bit stuck in Talk nirvana:)

Freiland invites the KB community to their build weekends on

16-18 April and 13-16 May

There will be a bonfire in the evening 🔥 We have probably infected them a little with burning


Alex Kaos Thu 18 Mar 2021 11:01AM

Without more specificity to our question I will answer in parts as represented by my offer.

No, Yes, Yes


CJ Yetman Wed 17 Mar 2021 6:13PM

Are you serious?


Alex Kaos Tue 16 Mar 2021 8:17PM

I know everything. Ask me a question! I won't bite x