No worries, this is the Ask-Box, hit the comments, someone will answer.
Dear Mareike, Franzi, Vero, Alex, thanks for your quick and profound feedback! I am not sure though if I communicated correctly what I am up for, so I trie it once more:Land:I am interested in a general opinion about this... if the people of Kiezburn think this is a good idea / road to go down or not. And here I think adressing especially the Vereinmembers makes sense, because as you state, Alex: It has to do with a lot of responsibility. So people who are "not even" in the Verein are of course also interesting to ask their opinion, but by and large this question would concern first and faremost the people who are also "leagaly" involved in KB. So here I would be just very interested in a general mood. this could be handeled very quickly... without discussion (for starters) to then start a discussion with the knowledge: Ok.. there is a big interest, or, Ok... there is not such a big interest/people have other things they want to focus on and another crowd is needed to pull off the project "Land". So if that is possible I would maybe just ask this very quick question at the end of the assembly. Dream Machine / UsertestingOur primary tests will be very short and formalized like: Tanin (our Usertester) will visit a few of you (who ever agrees... and yes, this can also be realizers and dont have to be Vereinsmitglieder, thanks for this hint) and will sit next to you while you try to create a new project, distribute tasks etc.... in a later stage the betaversion or also the alphaversion of the tool can be tested for "real stuff" but that is a plus at this point. So here I can gladly go to talk and ask around if that is generally ok with you as a Verein (starting the advice process here, asking about general concerns of me doing this).Dream Machine / Using Forum Content for Learnings and ResearchThis question is also a question about asking permission / checking concerns of us wanting to do this. Also bringing this up as a possible assembly topic to might having a forum to talk to people personally about concerns or understanding. I understand that this can also be done in talk and might be more efficient. At the same time I am not sure who would be able to give this permission or what would or could allow me to do so as we are decentrally organised. The assembly and the board are the legal bodies of the Verein who formally might could give this permission, so this is why I am adressing this forum. Of course I will and can go through advice processes before. But in the end, my question is, what would be the process from my request to a clear (or anticipated) yes or no answer. I know these questions are mostly a bit tricky as of the decentralised nature of our Verein. But that is exactly why I am adressing it to get advice especially about the processes to be adressed. Thanks a lot and till Sunday :D
additional agenda points to talk about/inform, yes. We will ask this in the beginning. Just no motions that need voting on, because members have to be informed of this one week before to be able to make up their mind about what to vote. (to my knowledge)
But I thought we can still add agenda requests during the beginning of the GA. or has that changed?
I also agree with Mareike, I guess both topics are great for the advice process to get inout from all relevant people and 'not only' eV members.. cuz some of the realizers might not be eV members etc
Very cool Alex.
As Mareika said, the agenda closed last Saturday and I'm not sure we can bring these into the official GA. But bringing them up as as voluntary topic afterwards is possible. Land is a huge question, and with a single-year-term board has proven very challenging. Imo the drive to purchase land should be handled by private members of the community in a different model (i.e. a cooperative), and the Verein supports with larger rent and other financial support to have the event and storage and other perks. Otherwise you have 'new' owners of the land every year, and the board role comes with a lot more responsibility. I am super excited to test the Dream Machine out, but it is an advice process. We should definitely inform the GA at the correct time, but it's implementation is either A - an advice process or B - a decision for specific teams to utilize (i.e. korg or board). Ultimately users will use what they want, but if the 6 organizers putting in the most juice all commit to it, many others should get on board.
Hi Alex, Thank you for bringing these to super interesting topics to the GA :) The agenda including all motions that will be presented and voted on, has been finalized on sunday as it has to be sent to the members one week before the GA. The Agenda is pretty full already, but is of course still possible to share these two topics with the assembly at the end to get feedback and maybe recruit a team. We will ask in the beginning for extra topics to be added to the agenda. But any decision (f.ex. implementing this tool) would rather take place here on talk as an Advice Process. See you sunday!
Hey there, I have one question. Where can I bring in topics for the general assembly? I would have two I would like to discuss:1. Buying landI would like to ask the Verein how we feel about buying land as a Verein as Boarderland did (or tried). I think it would not only solve a lot of problems, but also would raise a lot of new possibilities (and would create a lot of work of course)... but I would like to see if there might will form a group who is willing to push this topic and if the Verein would back such a group. 2. Kooperation with our development of Dream MachineI have a personal request to ask. I founded a company with two other dudes this year called "Dream Machine". We want to build a tool which can be described as a mix of a social network and a project management tool. With this tool every user can create their own interface, information is there where it is needed (not where it was posted) and with the help of an algorithm it will be possible for people with a very sturctured approach and people with a very unstructured approach to work together easyly - with noone having to change their approach. We currently are working on a MVP (minimum viable product) which is like the very basic set of functionalities. This MVP should be ready in January. With this development KB e.V. could help us a lot with the following:a) usertesting for the need of KB - which could lead to the implementation of functions wich could be especially useful for KB Orga. b) giving us access to the things written here in talk (anonymously) so we could have a real use case of real problems and discussion concerning projectmanagemant from which we could learn while designing the tool and take real world examples into account. We can offer a lifelong free use for the Verein once the tool is up and running (and of all versions before of course) I would be very happy and grateful if these two topics could be discussed and decided short and brief in the assembly. Or also here! Thanks my dears!
Who was responsible for the rabbit hole at the cafe wonderland? I would love to get in touch with that person regarding some of the artwork at display there.
I unsubscribed twice from getting email notifications from this thread, however, I still get email notifications. Question: How can I unsubscribe for good or who can take me off the list?
Thanks Veroca! Do you know if we have a regional Burning Man contact here in Berlin?
I have no idea whether is happening, but for sure that question belongs somewhere else. Here we answer anything related to Kiez Burn. I hope you find where to virtually play your music. Good luck ❤️
Hi everyone. Is Virtual Burn (BRCvr 2021 Virtual Burn) happening via Berlin this year? Would love to get involved as a DJ as I won't be in LA this year for it. If so, is there a link to apply or get more information? Big thanks!
Anyone leaving hamburg to kiezburn on thursday by car? my train is cancelled?
The latest post on telegram says gates open at 12pm tomorrow. What does that mean for people with a vehicle permit but no early entry permit - what's our time window to drive on site?
We have two vehicles full of gear and people getting ready for an extra early start tomorrow so as to make it to the gate by 11 (which supposedly was the deadline for vehicles to drive on site when the plan was still that gates open at 10).
I take it we should aim for 12pm then and have some time after gates open to drive on site?
Transfers are closed and the name on the ticket must match the name on ID, so probably not possible unfortunately.
Dear Burners, I sold my ticket to a good friend and he already paid, but today I found out that you have to transfer the ticket :(( Unfortunately that was just after 12, so too late!! I did not know that and now my name is still on it... Is he still able to go? Or is there something I can do? Thanks :)
Hey :) we have a Workshop thats in the when and where guide but the time Says it lasts for 6 hours.it is only 1,5 hours.where can i change that?so happy to be on the burn soon:)
You don't, feel free to stay longer and help with strike 😊
When do we have to leave site on Sunday?
I apologize, if this lands in a string, I don`t quite know if this is a comment to Leike or starting a new string. In any case,
Dear fellow Burners, dear friends,
I write you sad to report that I have hurt a tooth and this requires immediate care. For that reason I will not be able to attend the Kiezburn. Also,the 10:00 am, Wednesday, 11 August Rodeo Workout at the Saloon won`t take place.
Thank you all for allowing me to contribute. I hope to be able to once more. Your efforts, engagement and joy will warm me every day I am not on the playa with you.
It is difficult to formulate words on the depth of this happening, but I take it as an opportunity to welcome myself and you all home, as processing this has welcomed me home, here in Frankfurt,
So I open my arms wide and say
Welcome home, welcome home.
Welcome home, oh lovely Burners.
I will be hugging you all through a pillow placed on a Hochbett post! :) I mean it! <3
With tearful eyes,
Yours in dust and dreams,
Really? I don't need proof, that I live in Germany? Just give a address, then I can do the test for free?
Thank you, I will do!
Hi @Lieke Teunisse ! Are you on Facebook? There’s a transport group there where you might have more luck! Here’s the link: https://m.facebook.com/groups/1182697058525994
You do need, and antigen is fine, i think it should be for free for u, just use some berlin friends adress.
You must bring proof of a negative test from less than 24 hours, even if you’re vaccinated. Read the covid faq
I have a question about testing. I'm fully vaccinated, but it says in the guide that I still need a test result. I'm from Holland. Is testing in Berlin free for me too? Of do I need to do a test in Holland? Is antigeen test good? Or does it have to be a pcr test?
I hope actually, that I don't need a test, becouse I'm vaccinated....
Heeey everybody! This is my first time to kiezburn. I'm taking a night flixbus from Amsterdam to Berlin, and I'll be in Berlin on Wednesday morning. I could take the train, but it would be wonderful to share a ride from Berlin to Kiezburn. Is this the right group to ask for a share ride? I'm looking forward to a message
We will be using the caravan as a kitchen in our camp (Academia Philozoophia) ...
Are there free Campers who wants to organize a kitchen? Or are in the process already and are open for new people and want support?
my bad, i got it now.
It was just the first one from last week
Myriam answered me and it all works.
Have a fantastic burn
Am 06.08.2021 um 10:44 schrieb Veroca R. Sala (talk.kiezburn.org ( http://talk.kiezburn.org )) firstname.lastname@example.org:
Hallo.So I'm not getting the newsletter. I've looked for ways to subscribe and i'm finding any.
Info: i've got a secondhand ticket about 2 weeks ago, that might be why
If anybody have time and access i think that's worth investigating because I'm maybe not the only one?
Sorry, I am sending you the email now - you mail landed in Spam, and I only saw it this morning ,😕
Is your caravan the same thing as your car, or are they different?
I will forward your question via PM to her. If she didn't answer. Probbly is busy. I'll pin her anyways. Thanks
Hi guys I am part of the build crew of Academia Philozoophia. My caravan is used as a kitchen at Kiez burn. I applied for a permit and got an email approving my car for build. However Myriam Hofmeister asked me for more info about the caravan and sent me a link. This link didn't work and she didn't answer my email with the info. Am I permitted to drive the caravan to our camp? Greetings Rafael
@Tante Kirsch If it is not in your spam folder please resend your info to email@example.com with full name, Kiez, cell number and I will check my list
Hey i applied for our car to be at our Camp but didnt get a Mail?i dont find it anywhere:(
Someone correct me if I'm wrong but I'd say so 😉
thank you Purzel - I want to sleep in
my car - is it appropriate then to stay with the
car in the parking area?
Am 02.08.21 um 22:47 schrieb Purzel
There is a parkingarea in front of the gate where you can leave your car 😊
You only need the parking permit to park your car on site next to or in the camp
Oops I just did get my ticket from a
friend via ticket transfer. So what does this mean for me? Where
can I park it then? Outside somewhere? I would be happy to know
more about this...
Am 02.08.21 um 18:35 schrieb Purzel
Im afraid this process is already over. We are way past the deadline and this week it will be announced who got the permit.
If I remember correctly it was announced on talk/Facebook and the newsletter
Hi, does anybody know when it will be possible to register my car ? I could not find any information about this on the webpage - thanks - and have a great week everybody...
That’s amazing Ania! Maybe I can help out somehow when I arrive ✨🙏🏼
Super helpful thank you a lot !
I have found a ride now and applied to a camp ♥️🙏🏼
All about site planning and its realizer here in this thread https://talk.kiezburn.org/d/FCwUBtR8/site-planning
Yeah, there will probably be several camps doing that (your first question). If I am not mistaken, Sleepoverclub wanted to do swapping and we at Schlampagne will also have a few outfits to change…
there is going to be a camp with clothes swapping. I am collecting clothes for it! So dont worry, I hope u will find costumes for u. Bring something warm though, weather is unpredictable
First, be sure to read the covid hygiene concept, as there are many rules and regulations you should keep in mind before coming to site. It's in German but you can copy it into google translate to get the general idea, if there's anything unclear or confusing perhaps ask a german speaker to explain to you in detail. - (I put this first as there might be details relating to sharing rides in here) https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ajERHwGr8RZbojW3X_kVnC7qTM2bBpo0ijQ5oeWfvzk/edit
Have you read the survival guide? I always say to read it twice as it answers a lot of burning questions. Once you've read it twice, write down any questions you have, then try searching within talk (there is a search box at the top of the page.) This includes the sound concept and guidance on that. https://docs.google.com/document/d/143GCCNQR3lubOPay-0M08p8HDZbTDBAl70VGhYDz1Bs/edit?usp=sharing Why not see if a kiez will take you? I'm not sure if there is a costume camp, you can find them listed on the website. While covid is a thing it might be difficult to make it safe to share objects like this, but you can search 'costumes' on this page and see what you find, maybe there's a workshop to make a costume piece you can find in the guide: https://kiezburn.org/kieze-2021/ Ride sharing --> There was a thread here but the spreadsheet is empty: https://talk.kiezburn.org/d/arqP3uJz/kiez-burn-ride-shares- --- so maybe try the facebook group? https://www.facebook.com/groups/1182697058525994 Please see the survival guide and hygiene concept to see if there are consequences to sharing rides if someone tests positive for covid at the gate. There's also the bellhop service for transporting luggage from the local train station, might be the best option in covid times. https://talk.kiezburn.org/d/cP8niEDv/-bellhop-service-kiezburn2021 You might struggle to find a lift unless you're camping with folks, but I'm truly not sure! Otherwise check out the freecampers together thread https://talk.kiezburn.org/d/Nj7rnJMc/free-campers-alone-together-co-creation-coordination there might be some kind of coordination for getting a lift somewhere. As for a map, check this post - https://talk.kiezburn.org/d/FCwUBtR8/site-planningHope this helps, hope I haven't missed an important link.
I’ve not heard of a camp realising that. I think there was a dream concerning outfits changes though 🤔
Not sure. Maybe someone else’s knows something. ❤️
If you look under „subgroups“ you can find the Sound group and a draft of the sound concepts :) Maybe you’ll get Some infos there
That’s the map at the moment: https://www.google.com/mymaps/viewer?mid=1Z2dTgvdnnPb0uYBBXVFm6DZdA1kg2Kbt&hl=de
Changing though. I think someone is realising a kiezburn map. ❤️
Oh also is there a map of the camps and places on the Kiez?
Hey burners !
I am so lucky I got a ticket for the Kiez last minute! Now I am wondering about a few things.
Will there be such a thing as a costume tent? I am coming from my hometown and have very limited costumes but would love to express myself in different colors over there 🧚🏼
Is there a main overview of people doing car sharing etc? I can only find the Facebook group but there isn’t that much action yet - maybe there is a better place to look for such things ?:)
When a camp says they have a stage / music place what are the general rules for noise deadlines at night ? (If there is such)
That’s it for now .. Thanks in advance!
@Christine! The effigy Crew would like to talk to you, please reach out to me. Best over telegram https://t.me/Purzel23
We passed the early entry forms on to the dreamers. I don't know who applied for early entry though. My assumption is the Effigy team requires it and has requested it, though.
Hi all that cj says is correct.
Update: we just recruited a driver for the toilets. No driver needed anymore. But thanks so much for showing availability. It really means a lot.
The max number of builders per camp is 5. If your camp has a spot left for build you could come early. But you must apply today. Ask @Franzi for the form.
We dont have this form posted on social media and super promoted because we don't want to filter out a 1000 applications. This has gone out via Kieze leads and dreams. Hope you understand.
As for the effigy, the dreamer that presented the dream eventually must have requested to their dream guide x number of helping people to be onsite.
@Purzel is the effigy crew covered?
@Diarmaid did the effigy dreamer request early entry for the effigy crew?
I addition, as fyi the early entry applications end today! 😱 if help is really needed on site im sure that deadline could be flexible. But with the info I manage, we are already covered thankfully 🙌.
Hope this info helps.
Thank you and see you soon!
I could definitely drive a van from just about anywhere :-D
But I'll look
I’m pretty sure most of the “realizer” roles that warrant early entrance have been filled (otherwise we’d be screwed less than 2 weeks from an event with 1000 people, LOL), but this is the starting point for that: https://talk.kiezburn.org/d/xTdNjw2z/-realizers-we-need-you-
I think there was an announcement in the last 48 hours on all communication platforms (Talk, Telegram, FB, and possibly the email newsletter) looking for someone to drive a van with toilets from Leipzig (?) to KB, which would necessarily require early entry.
Otherwise you could reach out to our volunteer coordinator @Veroca R. Sala though that’s usually more for volunteer roles that don’t require early entry.
So, I got my ticket fairly late, and due to organizing a burn before KiezBurn I have not yet been able to put too much effort into KiezBurn preparations, and now I am trying to help out with building both my camp and the effigy, but both already have full set of early entry thingies sorted. So I was looking into doing some volunteering needed to be performed early entry, so I can basically kill two birds with one stone.. But with all the communications that is happening everywhere, I have no clue where to look, who to talk to, or if I should plan a nice weekend somewhere else in stead, and just arrange for my stuff (shade structure and that sort of stuff) to be picked up some other (as of yet mysterious) way. Please advice?
no just a friend wants to sell me the
ticket but we both did not really know
how to handle this...
Am 30.07.21 um 22:47 schrieb Jan Thomas
great ! thanks + good night
Am 30.07.21 um 22:44 schrieb Jan Thomas
@Tante Kirsch it sounds like you bought it from someone via the Ticket Bazaar on Facebook. If they correctly transferred the ticket to you then you should have received an email that confirms this, and when you login to burnertickets.com you should see your ticket listed under “My Events / Transfers”. If that's not the case first check with the seller that they have completed the transfer!
Yes, it is that easy! Let us know in case of any issues!
Is it that easy ? I will try it,
thank's a lot !!
Am 30.07.21 um 22:25 schrieb Jan Thomas
Hi Nana, simply by registering an account on burnertickets.com you have created what you need. Now you just need to get your friend to login to burnertickets.com, click on “My Events / Transfers” and enter your email address (which you used to create your burnertickets account).
yes thanks- i also did this - i thought i am too stupid to find the solution for this problem but it seems not so easy for everybody… have a great night
Am 30.07.2021 um 20:15 schrieb CJ Yetman (talk.kiezburn.org) firstname.lastname@example.org:
Maybe contact their support? https://burnertickets.com/contact-us/
hi, yes i registered there already but i could not find out how to create a profile there. that’s my problem :(
Am 30.07.2021 um 19:52 schrieb Veroca R. Sala (talk.kiezburn.org) email@example.com:
Hi Nana, You must have an account on burnertickets.com
Hi everybody, I am very happy that a friend of mine will give me her ticket for Kiezburn. But I could not find out how I can create a profile of myself on the webpage. I read that this is necessary for the ticket transfer. Can anybody help me and tell me how I can create a profile? That would be wonderful. I wish you all a magic summer weekend...and see you very soon on kiezburn...
Anyone travelling from Berlin to Freiland on Monday 9th and wants to join forces?
What waiting list? If they're legit then they would know that the Facebook Kiez Burn Ticket Bazaar is the only waiting list we have ever had.....
Hey @Tante Kirsch, can you send an email to firstname.lastname@example.org with the information: the email you have registered with Burner Tickets, the payment email and type (card or paypal), and your legal name? We can look into it and see what's happened!
What’s the waiting list?
Several legit people are looking for the waiting list. Where is it? How do you get on it? Where is it posted about?
Do you mean the person who sold you the ticket did not sent the ticket to you? They can do via the burn tickets website if you tell them the email you used to loog in on the site.If there is further problem (like... the person who sent sell you the ticket does not want to give you the ticket please let us know)
Yes i have an Account there.but there is no ticket.maybe it was sent to the email of Facebook?i dont have Password there for the email adress.but i saw in my Account that i paid.so what can i do?
Do you mean find your ticket? Have you create a account on https://burnertickets.com/ ?
https://www.thetrainline.com/book/results?origin=40929a1d5b49f8f6df6f68d591f6a832&destination=485afebf98d57f4f42d8ee15e4a0cfba&outwardDate=2021-08-11T08%3A00%3A00&outwardDateType=departAfter&journeySearchType=single&passengers%5B%5D=1994-07-28%7Cb43adacb-81b8-4b1b-a1fa-f38684821249&lang=en&selectedOutward=Ja37dzAakDQ%3D%3Ay76lkCj4WDQ%3D%3AStandardOnce in Sternfeld you can use the Bellhop Service to get your luggage carried so it will be easier to walk or run the 8km
I have been trying to search trains to Sternfeld, Hohenmocker but it keeps telling me there aren't any...
HI... newbie a with a potentially stupid question... I'm trying to work out how to get to the burn if I don't have a car. I know there is a station relatively close , I think called Sternfeld... but it would seem Germany quite likes to call places Sternfeld... can someone give me a more accurate name I can search Deutsche Bahn with? Or maybe somewhere we have the train schedule already listed? Thank you!
I bought a Ticket to kiezburn.i Used Facebook.but i really dont know how to find it.ahhhhhhhh.can someone please Help?😊greets julia
You could have a look at the new photos of the site and the paths on the site plan: https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/viewer?ll=53.832628917916146%2C13.23950898213428&z=19&mid=1Z2dTgvdnnPb0uYBBXVFm6DZdA1kg2Kbt ("pictures 23.07.21") Maybe that'll help you assess the accessibility? Looks like it would be technically possible but arduous!
Hi Ania, I've got experience attending burns with ambulatory wheelchair users, sometimes on a carer ticket, but not yet at this site. I would say that if you're new to using a wheelchair or crutches it will be quite challenging (lots of upper body that you're probably not using in the same way,) but feel free to find me at the observatory or on another digital platform for a PM if you have other accessibility questions so we can share notes. I don't think there will be any accessible toilet facilities, for example (not a problem as such, but just think of all the places you'll have to navigate in a different way.) I do not think it is unmanageable however I would strongly consider the energy getting from A to B as exponentially higher than other times, and I would consider it almost essential to ask in advance if some people can commit to helping you get around. Disturbing a healing surgery on the rough ground might also be less than ideal, but I understand where you're coming from ;)
@Caroline Clemclem's powered wheelchair is very expensive and has a non-standard front wheel attachment, and I wouldn't recommend it for new users if it were easily available. But I understand why you bring it up, it is very cool :) xx
This issue is solved now, thx!
Hi @Michiel Schaeverbeke what do you mean with the dashboard group? Im not sure if I understand your question correctly. happy to help you if you gave me some more context. Thank you!
I believe trycicle are better to go everywhere?
Try to send an email at email@example.com and Clemclem might reply to you with good advices on wheelchairs (he goes to nowhere and creme brulée in a wheelchair)
I think the effigy is planned for friday eve and we either burn it or there will be LEDs, depending on the fire regulations that day. 😊
thanks! now i need to find a wheelchair or an art car to drive me around)
The whole site is "wheel-accessible", but probably not wheelchair friendly. Meaning, that there are roads/paths to get everywhere, but the slopes may be quite difficult and the land is rough and irregular :/
Good luck on your operation!
Wheelchair accessibility. I urgently need a knee operation and seems like it will be two days before the Kiezburn. Nothing too serious but I will have to walk on crutches or sit in wheelchair. I absolutely cannot miss this Kiezburn, i was waiting for 2 years. How wheelchair accessible will it be? I have been there before but never looked at the space from this point of view. Thanks a lot everyone!
Build is quite full, but you can try your chances requesting an early arrival entry filling up this app form until July 31st. If you don't get an early entry ticket, it wont be possible to let you in before Wed 10.00
Hey! I was wondering how is it possible to enter on the 10th of my camp's 5 early entry passes are already taken? Will it still be possible to come one day in advance and help build my camp?:) Thanks
Yes yes. As it says in the form itself 🤓Deadline is 31st of July 🙂. Shortly after (2-3 days) Franzi will contact you
is there a tentative point in time when people will be informed about their early entry request? :) Much Luv ❤️
Lol! well in that case im not sure either! @Professor Kaos @Purzel @Daisy