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Leave No Trace

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As we burners know, Burn events, from small regionals to the Big Burn in Nevada, have one standout guiding principle: Leave No Trace.
We pick up any and every piece of MOOP (matter out of place), and ensure our site returns to the pristine state we found it.

LNT Lead @andreas Noack

LNT Planning for Kieze

For all the Kieze it is mandatory to fill out the following LNT Form.

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSc9kfF_sKAJOq26hyTdM7HokoF0etdFDSSeptgJDzq29V5W9w/viewform?c=0&w=1

What do you need to know?

Whatever you bring into Kiez Burn, you are responsible for removing it when you leave. Everything you bring onto the site has the potential to become Matter out of Place (MOOP): Costumes, cigarette butts, water bottles, glass containers, hats, fruit, rope fibers, glitter - everything can become MOOP. Every person and every Kiez is responsible for their rubbish.

Grey water, known as waste water, may be disposed on site if they only contain organic soap. For disposal you may use a area overgrown with bushes and dump the water there. Please keep distance from the lake when disposing organic grey water. There may be a possibility to dump grey water into the showers. There are no hook-ups for camper vans, and no dumping may be done on site. You can find recycling stations nearby at Neubrandenburg for example.

Swimming is only allowed in the bigger lake with the small island and is not allowed in the smaller lakes. Please minimize ecological stress to the lake and shower before swimming and do not use sunscreen or similar skin products.

Toilettes: the home of all the human traces. There will be porta potties (dixii) and a few compost toilettes. They will be placed adequately and sufficient numbers of toilets will be provided. Cleaning and maintenance will be done on a daily basis. If there are any issues with the toilets please let the Arbeitsamt know - than the problem well be solved as soon as possible.

MOOP - Matter Out Of Place

During the event there will be Moop Runs by volunteers to clean up the side if needed and after the event we will look through the whole side and pick up all the remaining Moop. There will be a Moop Map which will show the level of Moop left behind after the event.

NEVER LET MOOP HIT THE GROUND. Clean as you go. MOOP attracts more MOOP. When you see trash on the ground, pick it up and take it with you.

• Carry a MOOP bag. Wherever you go, carry a small bag to collect any MOOP you find.
• Weigh items down/don’t let them blow away
• If you’re a smoker, carry a portable ashtray such as a mint tin with you at all time. Never, ever drop cigarette butts.
• Ask permission before using a Kiez refuse area if you are not camping with them.
• NEVER BURN TRASH! Take your waste with you when you leave

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Saskia
Abstain
Mon 14 May 2018 1:08PM

Bandits comments regarding the wood chips provide facts that I did not consider before. I certainly feel like I am not informed enough to have a opinion here. However, I assume that straw should be okay, if still as much DEMOOPed as possible.

SL

Steffen Lepa
Abstain
Wed 16 May 2018 11:57AM

straw yes, woodchips no, assuming that Amber is correct.

JH

Jaina Hirai Tue 8 May 2018 10:12PM

Just to clarify, if I vote AGREE I am voting that straw and woodchips are not MOOP and are okay? "not LNT" is a bit confusing to me as that sounds not okay.

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walto Tue 8 May 2018 11:21PM

clearer like this?

JH

Jaina Hirai Tue 8 May 2018 11:27PM

Yes, thanks!

DU

Wed 9 May 2018 8:32AM

FYI those are shavings; not chips. totes ok with shavings if they come from an untreated source

W

walto Wed 9 May 2018 9:43AM

good point!

CY

Poll Created Wed 16 May 2018 9:42AM

Is biodegradable glitter acceptable? Closed Wed 23 May 2018 9:02AM

Outcome
by walto Thu 31 May 2018 2:51PM

Thank you for your participation in this discussion.

Taking in all the feedback, we have come to the decision that glitter, including biodegradeable glitter, will not be allowed at kiez burn 2018.

We are a consensual do-ocracy. The general principle is that anyone should be able to make any decision regarding Kiez Burn. However, before you make a decision, you must ask advice from those who will be impacted by that decision, and those who are experts on that subject. Assuming that you follow this process, and honestly try to listen to the advice of others, that advice is yours to evaluate and the decision yours to make.

The reasons the decision taken is against glitter, is that those impacted by the decision raised a red flag (block) with no adequate solution to address these concerns.

The reasons again listed below:
- ALL glitter will need to be picked up during the Sunday/Monday/Tuesday MOOP sweeps since no differentiation can be made between biodegradeable and non-biodegradeable glitter.
- Nobody can guarantee no glitter will fall off their face during the burn (and therefore need to be picked up during MOOP sweeps)
- it gives the wrong signal regarding LNT
- to make it even more complex: "biodegradeable glitter" is not as biodegradeable as it claims to be

As Stefan already said before, you are invited to join the LNT panel discussion on Saturday 23/06 at 16h at Just being to further discuss what LNT means at an event such as ours.

for example:

"Our biodegradable glitter is made from plant cellulose- sourced from sustainable plantations (mostly Eucalyptus!) and all non-GMO. It is certified compostable and marine/greywater safe! The glitter needs heat, oxygen and moisture to break down,

Results

Results Option % of points Voters
Agree 50.0% 18 MR JH A CY T SLC JR SK VW E W PM FM DU DM IG HK SD
Abstain 0.0% 0  
Disagree 44.4% 16 EM LS C AW A P SL JB AN JD F KW AK D W S
Block 5.6% 2 RS DU
Undecided 0% 72 TS OE KBE DR JC DR H H NV DU MG LE PK O NK JB A M SF SW

36 of 108 people have participated (33%)

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Pauline
Disagree
Wed 16 May 2018 9:43AM

It will still take a while to degrade and the nature will not look as pretty as before.

SL

Steffen Lepa
Disagree
Wed 16 May 2018 9:55AM

for sure not at an outdoor event in nature, where we cannot use a vaccuum cleaner to tidy up. We want to leave the place in the same condition we found it, not only in terms of bio-contamination, but also "aesthetically". This is not our place!

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