This advice process is about deciding the date for Kiez Burn 2023. While a preferred date has been discussed by most current Realizers during the kickoff weekend, more information needs to be gather to ensure we make the best decision possible.

UPDATE: DECISION HAS BEEN REACHED, WE HAVE DATES!

09 - 13 August

Thank you for your patience on this.

The main points that have impacted the decision:

• Wish to not impede with other European Burns

• Ensuring that the dates do not interfere with Rebirth, which has agreed to change their dates, as it doesn't represent a major hassle

• Availability of the majority of Realisers

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Proposer

@Cairn (Clément)

Proposer’s role:

Boardie.

I am writing this Advice Process on behalf of all the participants of the Kickoff Weekend 2023. This group of people includes most of the realizers for Kiezburn 2023, a lot of realizers from previous years, and some Boardies. 

Information gathered before posting

This proposal was discussed with the board, as well as during the Kickoff Weekend, on 28.01.2023.

People/roles most affected by this proposal

@Everyone

@Boardies

@Tickets

People/roles with the most knowledge and experience relevant to this proposal:

Participants of the Kickoff Weekend 

Realizers

The proposal

Background

Finding a date is hard. Events near and far, some being Burns, some big festivals, some KB-community-led. How do we ponder the different factors and choose a date for KB 23?

A date was discussed and agreed upon during the Kick Off weekend (see table below).

However, voices have quickly raised, bringing arguments that may not have been taken into account then.

All dates possible have cons, this is about agreeing on the least bad option.

The proposal

Let’s map all pros and cons for each date, and try to come up with a way to make the most beneficial decision for everyone involved.

Here's a table with the different events known to be attended by an unknown amount of KB members, along with the potential dates.

I will update it as needed.

Burn

Festival/Convention

Community organised event

What do we want to take into account in deciding a date?

• Freiland's restrictions. Weekend of 15.07 is first Burn weekend possible. Non negotiable. (So build from 07.07)

• Availability of current Realisers. Most were present during Kick off weekend, but not all.

• Sustainability. Decision has been made during Kick Off to put Sustainability at the core of how we work together and create Kiez Burn. Should we give the same importance to far away events, as this can be considered a facilitation of a non sustainable practice? This concerns Burning Man mainly, but also Nowhere/Borderlands

• Homeburns. The dates agreed on at Kick Off overlap Rebirth (aka Funeral). Assumption was made that moving this event would be less trouble for the 100 people involved than it would be for 1000 people KB to find other dates. However this has not been communicated with the organisers beforehand (As organiser of the Kick Off, I'd like to apologise for that, that's just shitty), nor confirmed with them

• Which other events are Realisers actually intending on attending? See the poll in comments

How would the proposal be implemented

1. Gathering of advice & inputs from Realizers, impacted peeps, and community (until 17.02)

2. If the proposed date (09-13.08) is clearly the best choice, validate & confirm with Freiland.

3. If outcome is uncertain, a vote will be opened, for one week, before a decision is taken

Who would implement this proposal

All of us?

I’m driving this AP, but the implementation of the event and decision communication falls on Realisers, Site Liaison, Communicors.

When would this proposal be implemented

Best case by 17.02, worst a week later.

What would be the cost (time, money, effort, etc.) of this proposal

Time/effort: Gathering advice (not opinions or wishes), and trying to find the least inconvenient dates.

What are the advantages of this proposal (relative to the current situation and/or counter-proposals)

We have an event in 2023, pretty cool no?

What are the disadvantages of this proposal (relative to the current situation and/or counter-proposals)

We have to work to have an event?

Decision

A decision on what date we want KB 23 to be should happen in the next three weeks, so we can go ahead with booking a date with Freiland.