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On the weekend July 16-18th some of us went to check out the Freiland Sommerfest and used the opportunity to gather some information and last updates about the condition of the Gelände.

Below, the list of all the info we gathered.

@Mareike @Franzi @Sven Dudink @Jack @Bee @Diarmaid I'm just opening the thread here and writing down what I remember. Please, add/correct whatever I might be missing. Thank you!

Tagging everyone who could have interest in this updates. Please, add whoever may be missing. Tagging @Erin Jeavons-Fellows for Kieze updates. Tagging @Veroca R. Sala because she will find good reasons to be tagged here, mostly, further tagging :)

If you have questions, ask them in this thread and let's hope we have the answers! :)

Here some PICTURES (please, add yours)

  • Toilets @Jack

    • Freiland installed 10 compost toilets, mostly in groups of 3. They come with 2 urinals each on one side and a hand washing station on the other. They are self built and can be moved. The solid waste goes into a big regular wheelie rubbish bin that is exchanged when full. The liquid waste flows through pipes from the urinal and the bottom of the wheelie bin into a barrel that is located lower in the ground (gravity). the barrel has a pump at the bottom to pump out the fluid into a big 1000L IBC container.

  • Water @Sven Dudink

    • The following areas have a hose with running water:

      • Deine Mudda @Max (is this you?)

      • Underworld @Annette

      • Zerzura / Prometheans @Professor Kaos

      • Blanket Fort / Kunst Kuns / Kinky Camp @Erin Jeavons-Fellows

      • The top of the hill.

  • Grey Water @Friso (see pics)

    • They built a septic tank by the entrance to Nubicuculia to gather the water form the showers by Drug Sluts.

  • Showers @Major Tom

    • The shower container from Drug Sluts/Deine Mudda were completely restored, with running water and working!

    • The showers from the top of the hill weren't in use. No water connexion, trashy state, most of the showers weren't complete.

  • New Structures @Natacha Kromatik (see pics)

    • In the Prometheans Area there were some new structures! @Professor Kaos

      • a cool DJ booth! aprox 5x6,5m platform with a 2x2,5m DJ booth area.

      • Distance between poles approx 8-9m to center. 12m between the outside posts. 4 posts in total.

      • The central post got a nice wooden bench all around it.

    • Between Prometheans and Pirates there's a big new structure: a rhombus/boat shaped bar! 6,5 x 6,5 m

    • By Drug Sluts, in front of the shower container, there's a trashy camper van with bio-hazard! A bees colony found it to be a good place to build their bee-hive!

  • Safety check (see pics)

    • The staircase down to Prometheans is new!

    • The staircase down to Blanket Fort/Kinky Camp/Kunst Kunts is repaired.

    • The staircase down to Underworld is in good condition.

    • The trash in Nubicuculia was still there! A big pile of wood, and the 2 old cars :/ Who's the Nubicuculia Kiez Lead? @Roko

      • the pile of wood is fine, some camps will take this as building material

      • they will clear up the trash, the car has been moved on top of one container and will stay there – we need to check if its needs to be secured @Cris

    • Electric fences around the edge of site (signs needed to warn folk? @Ancka )

  • Gate & Covid @Mareike @Hanna-Maija (Animal) @Jan-Christian Kaspareit (see pics)

    • They organized the Gate in 4 stations: check in (ticket, ID and corona schnelltest check) Test Tent, Waiting for the results-tent, QR ticket code scanning and wristband check.

    • At the first check in tent, you'd get a "Geländepass", with your personal data and the result of every test. Everyone was requested to keep this with them at all times and don't

    • They had 2 test stations, one at Gate, which closed on Saturday in the afternoon, and one close to the Tool House, for the "after 24 hours tests". You would get a simple "paper" wristband after your negative test, in a different color everyday.

    • They had an online system of booking slots for the test, to avoid concentrations. Both on the day of arrival and for the consecutive tests after 24 hours. Although, no one was really checking this and people would arrive more or less whenever.

    • You need a phone with reception to register with your personal details and receive the result of your test.

    • If you leave the Gelände, eben for some minutes, you have to get tested again! And security would check!

  • Rangers @Jessie

    • in the Rangers spot there's a big metal container. There's still space for the tent (see pic)

  • Welfare @River Aleks

    • Blankets were picked up from storage and brought back to Berlin (@Bee has them)

  • Cell phone signal

    • Most of us had phone and internet signal in practically every corner! Who had it and who hand't was, to our understanding, quite random.

Some questions answered by Freiland:

  • will the trash, cars and wood pile form Nubicuculia be removed as promised?

    • they will remove it – the wood pile will stay as build material for some camps

    • the car has been moved to the top of a container

  • Is there a way to do the Covid testing without phones? Can we check this with Max? @Jan-Christian Kaspareit

    • Eric from Freiland suggested us to work with somebody else, since communication with Max was a bit difficult. We already checked if it's possible with our Sanitätsdienst (first aid) but unfortunately they are not allowed. If we rely on phones, maybe it's possible that e.g. sound camps provide some sort of charging stations...

  • Clarify and confirm the limits of the free camping and parking area.

    • We can use the "wildflower" area for parking @Cairn (Clément)

  • What do freiland do with the “black water” (urine) and the solid waste (shit) after the event?

    • Their shitbox system separates both. They are removing feces themselves, there is a certain area dedicated to get rid of this stuff (Klärgrube). We would need a big Frontlader car and lots of dedicated shit ninjas, so it's easier to ask an external company. @Jack

  • How much volume did they fill (both waste types), how did they dispose of it and how much does it cost? Answer: See toilet thread

  • How many watercubes for the fire department can freiland give us? They didn't know while spark.

  • Will grass area (old kinder kiez) be trimmed before out event?

    • yes

  • Did Frieland own the red / yellow stretch tents & tables and chairs from their Sommerfest? Can we rent from them or get the details of who they rent from?

    • no, we asked for contact details

  • Where they got their hand sanitiser? Some local dealer? We need 200 litres and would make no sense drive it from Berlin

  • Where was their Covid test crew staying? We need to provide them accomodation and have options but quite far away.

  • Will anything be done with the showers on the hill or are these out of use for this year?

    • no showers on the hill, only Deine Mudda area


Annette Mon 19 Jul 2021 3:42PM

If there is wood left for Kieze, UnderWorld is interested to get some.


Annette Mon 19 Jul 2021 3:45PM

@Cairn (Clément) We have a call with Freiland tomorrow, will check with them.

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CJ Yetman Tue 20 Jul 2021 8:11AM

I told the sound protocol team multiple times that the old Zezura location was one of the primary sound locations that Freiland uses every year and that it doesn't make sense to use other areas instead as the loud zones for KB. 😱


Veroca R. Sala Thu 22 Jul 2021 3:14PM

apparently, the campervan is there but there is a bee hive very big in it. it is not meant to be used. Not sure about the Containers you say... @Cris knows but she will be back next week!


Veroca R. Sala Thu 22 Jul 2021 3:22PM

I would say as long as they dont use soap or a good eco-friendly soap they could shower anywhere. We can't prohibit this without offering a better alternative which we dont really have.

I would phrase it like this " no soap or eco-friendly" other than "please, shower with eco-friendly soap" IMO.

Maybe we can make a note on the survival guide about those shitty commercial fake eco-friendly products that only put a green label on them and claim to be good for the environment (?)

About the greywater, maybe @Friso has something to say?.

  • I ill link this comment to the Survival guide thread so it doesnt get lost.


Kaliope Tue 27 Jul 2021 12:07PM

We now heard from the Amt that there have definitely been complaints @CJ Yetman @Roko


CJ Yetman Tue 27 Jul 2021 12:36PM

thanks Kate... also relevant to @Quentin


Annette Tue 27 Jul 2021 12:56PM

This is not official, not definitely and not confirmed, we know no details. I called the Amt today to ask for permit process and also asked for sound complaints during Freiland. They couldn´t tell me anything but that it is confidential. But it was mentioned in general and in other areas some people complain for no reason and some people do it just to stress the Amt. We will ask Eric on our call on Thursday if he knows more. Sorry @Kate if you understand there have been complaints from another message by me, I really can´t tell.


Cris Mon 19 Jul 2021 11:14AM

More pictures coming from my side! Somehow they're not uploading correctly (?)

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