talk.kiezburn.org
Mon 28 Aug 2023 3:20PM

Convert Facebook group from public to private

W walto Public Seen by 36

A decision has been made

  • Who made the decision: Walto

  • When was the decision made: 04/09/2023

  • Decision Summary: group made private


Proposer

Proposer (name, handle, etc.):

@walto @Erin Jeavons-Fellows @Jan-Christian Kaspareit @agata @Chiara

Proposer’s role:

Active members of Kiez Burn Facebook social team

The advice process

Advice Process ending date: 02/09/2023

Information gathered before posting

Concerns were raised on discord and discussed + reflected within the KB Facebook social team

The proposal

Background

The Kiez Burn Facebook group was initially founded as a public group so the group would be easily found for those with an interest in Kiez Burn. In 2022 Facebook made the change that posts in public groups are now readable by anyone, even if they are not part of the group or even if they are not logged into Facebook.

The proposal

We want to change the group to be private rather than public.

Positive:

  1. only people part of the group can read group posts. We believe this will help engagement with people feeling safer in the space. Active Facebook group members have received undesired attention with their activity in the Facebook group. Examples:

    • Stalking: A stalker was able to see all Kiez Burn posts posted by their target

    • people using bot crawling to find work, contacting Kiez Burn people posting developer-oriented content in the Kiez Burn group.

  2. More control over who joins / less fake profiles

"Drawbacks":

  • less reach & impact / lower growth

  • This change cannot be undone (make the private group public again later)

How would the proposal be implemented

Facebook admins will switch the Facebook group to be private but visible: https://www.facebook.com/help/286027304749263

When would this proposal be implemented

target: 02/09/2023

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Caro T Tue 29 Aug 2023 7:41AM

Love this proposal. I even believe one of our "Drawbacks" is another plus argument. You mention less reach & impact / lower growth if the Facebook group isn't public. I'd argue that it's not our task to reach nor grow via Facebook. We often worry about the growth of Kiez Burn and newbies not understanding the principles. But why do we always think about complete newbies when we think of growth - when we could be growing through experienced burners from other burns doing more "outreach" in the international and european burn scene. Interested seeking newbies will always find the burner scene - but complete randos just looking for the next festival-high might overlook our experiemnt when we're not as "obvious" on Facebook.

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Meghan Tue 29 Aug 2023 8:40AM

Agree! I think that making it a private group won't exclude people who do want to join and actively engage, so I don't see any negative there. Sounds like a great idea to me!

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Cris Tue 29 Aug 2023 7:45AM

Shut that public feature down!

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Ceci Tue 29 Aug 2023 9:18AM

Yay! Great proposal, thanks for stepping up 🙏

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Kiki Tue 29 Aug 2023 7:45PM

Agreeing 101%, thank you for your effort!

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Mi Go Thu 31 Aug 2023 2:23PM

Finally :) Thank you for doing this