Sat 30 Mar 2019 12:41PM

KB Showers

EJ Erin Jeavons-Fellows Public Seen by 110

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Looking to recreate the showers from last year. Anyone who knows anything about the showers last year

  • who we got them from?
  • how much they were?
  • when we got them delivered on site?
  • etc

Please let me know! much appreciated help!
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Jan Thomas Sun 31 Mar 2019 9:44AM

Hey @erinjeavonsfellows - Thanks for taking initiative! Luckily this is something that we get for free from Freiland. They own the shower containers, and they will be on site again in the same locations as last year. All water connection & grey water aspects are handled by @danielaquariusdrin so I believe this area is mostly under control!

The only aspect that I can think of to improve from last year is shower maintenance - If we could find a way to have them cleaned up a bit each day that would make it way nicer!


Daniel Sun 31 Mar 2019 10:56AM

Hey @janthomas and @erinjeavonsfellows,

I'll do drinking water, fill ups, installations and maintance with a small team but won't do grey and wastewater, otherwise it's getting too much. Since the showers are the main Grey water source would be great to get this covered by a shower team.


Erin Jeavons-Fellows Mon 1 Apr 2019 9:15AM

That is excellent news! I am thrilled to see that my initiative is already done! hahaha
I will do daily cleanup/wipe down and I will also decorate the area a little bit with my octopus and inflatable dolphins. I hope everyone enjoys the aqua shower :)


Martijn Thu 4 Apr 2019 10:53AM

Will gladly help Clean the showers every day.


walto Thu 4 Apr 2019 11:02AM

@danielregev and @janthomas could you describe what exactly dealing with grey & waste water means? Possibly starting a new thread in this group and linking it into the responsibility on realities?

That way we can clearly direct ppl that are interested to the necessary info :) Effective recruiting ;)


Erin Jeavons-Fellows Tue 9 Apr 2019 10:12PM

I can do shower cleaning with Martijn but I cant take on any more work. Grey water topic will have to be covered by someone else! FIngers crossed someone else can do that task


Jan Thomas Wed 10 Apr 2019 11:33AM

It's looking good for grey water help - @andreasnoack is looking into this for toilet waste anyways, so this might sort it :-)


Andreas Noack Wed 10 Apr 2019 12:07PM

hello so i already put my name in the realities sheet! also i contacted the waste water company and it is 10,21 per cubic meter. also on Saturdays and Sundays they charge extra so we probably get waste water transported of site on Wed/Fr/Mo or similar.


walto Fri 5 Apr 2019 4:10PM

however way you want to reach her :) Her email is on realities, but you can also find her on talk @verocarsala or she also is active on facebook. She often comes to leads meetings as well :D


Jan Thomas Thu 4 Apr 2019 11:05AM

I had already written that up in a reply further up in the thread. Now it's also been added to Realities.


Martijn Thu 4 Apr 2019 11:09AM

I'm new to this system so it takes a little figuring out.
Can I mail Veronika directly or should I use an "in system" way of communicating ?
(i am so excited to be part of this!)


Veroca R. Sala Sun 7 Apr 2019 11:07AM

@martijn Hi there. Soon I'm gonna open a thread to update a little how is it gonna work out volunteers this year. So you know I will forward all the leads a form asking about how many many volunteers would they need and some other things as well. I'll announce the date on talk so everybody can start gathering that information. Any ways you can easily reach me by email


walto Thu 4 Apr 2019 11:01AM

Very cool @martijn ! Do you want to sign yourself up as the realizer of that topic here: ?

You could also consider having some volunteers help with that, by collaborating with the volunteer coordinator Veronika - here is more info on how to contact her:


walto Fri 5 Apr 2019 4:08PM

Danke schön :) I made you guide of this project, hope you don't mind.


walto Wed 3 Apr 2019 7:50PM

@erinjeavonsfellows I believe we stll need someone for grey water in order to actually make the showers happen, since we struggled with the amount of grey water from the showers last year...


Jan Thomas Tue 2 Apr 2019 7:55AM

@erinjeavonsfellows Great! Are you planning to get a team together around this? There are 2 shower containers, and if we wanted to have both of them active they'd both need maintenance and grey water...

I can help with knowledge around the grey water - essentially we need to
* arrange to get the grey water tanks via Freiland (at no cost, as they're already on site from their own festival)
* organise grey water disposal with GKU Demmin who will send a truck to pump out (costs a few 100€
* check fill level of the tanks on site during the event, and prevent overflow in case it gets tight
* ensure that the pump out actions happen as planned, or organise additional pump runs


Daniel Regev Sun 31 Mar 2019 9:59PM

In that case, I would strongly suggest: no shower team = no showers. It is indeed by far the biggest grey water source (and indeed was quite dirty last year). I think the showers are a great way to push our motto forward - it'll happen if you make it happen, and it won't if you don't. There is a risk here of having a lot of the "dangerous motto", which is "oh, so nice, someone else is doing this for me, yay, I can simply enjoy it!". I'd suggest that someone who feels this topic is important for them (personally I can live without this in KiezBurn) make a call-out and look for a Lead for this. I'm sure @danielaquariusdrin would be happy to assist/consult?