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This thread is to discuss all storage-related matters.

Realizer: @Thomas Hohe

Topics to discuss/resolve:

Kieze not returning to Kiez Burn

  • July 2021 Update: it looks like the non-returning Kieze will be taking care of their gear.

The size of the parcels:

  • The barn has a total of 177,6 sqm and Kiezburn pays €1000/p.a. for that. This comes down to €5,63/sqm for the Camps.

  • Should we limit the size of the parcels each camp has been allocated to enable more (smaller) parcels for new camps?

Which Kieze will get a parcel in the barn/storage?

Kieze 2021 who need storage

  • info provided by Kieze Facilitator ( soon to come)

Info ( Feb 2021)

@The Lord of Fire (Schatzmeister)

  • The Kiez Burn storage shed near Freiland is paid yearly and we are meant to empty the whole space for at least 24 hours. Am I wrong? that is our own policy. (more info)

  • Did we pay 2020 storage? Who was in charge of that (?) since we didn't have an event...each camp should pay their own bill but, I wonder who has been collecting the $$$ or are we behind? No, we are not behind. It has been paid by Kiez Burn.

  • In 2021 we will not have the event in the summer solstice a usual, is there something we should coordinate in advance with the landlord? all good, nothing to worry about this.


Annette Tue 16 Feb 2021 8:30PM

Our next meeting is Thursday, I will put storage as a topic on the agenda.


Veroca R. Sala Sun 21 Feb 2021 9:49AM

wonderful, thanks for the update. Dylan has made an excellent Post Mortem here, the google drive folder link is also there. Updated this thread with new info.🙌



Veroca R. Sala Mon 5 Jul 2021 11:40AM

Having extra stuff is not confirmed until all orga areas are sorted (especially welfare which needs soft area essentially).

We dont really know the state of all these mattresses until the storage is emptied out. I dont know who said that there were a lot of mattresses, probably they belong to non-returning camps; in that case, the procedure hasn't been put in place. I also heard that the policy will be: take it all or dont take it. It is rather tricky to cherry-pick materials at storage, It is all a big pile.

It has been 2 years and we could just find out that most of these materials are not in a good shape. I would not rely on extra mattresses from the orga, however, as it was done in 2019, during build we did make a pile with all stuff that was to be donated to all camps that needed some extra stuff.


Thomas Hohe Mon 12 Jul 2021 3:43PM

So far it seems like all the camps that have stuff in storage want to renew. We have yet to come up with a system to redistribute storage space. Today, judging from the documentation I have, I'd assume, that there will not be any significant space for additional camps. That will depend on the amount of things that will be disposed off by the camps, too. Not a satisfying answer at this time, I am aware.


Thomas Hohe Mon 12 Jul 2021 3:46PM

so I am reading two questions there:

No.1: it really will depend on how big it is and how much storage space we'll have after the burn. Judging from the documentation I have there will not be any significant space for additional camps.

No.2: the smallest space was €29/year last time, and that was about 5,1 sqm. But again: at this time I do not know how the situation is going to be after the burn. I am contacting the camps that have stuff in the barn. So far all but one would like to continue to store their things their. That situation may change.


CJ Yetman Mon 12 Jul 2021 3:57PM

An additional consideration would be... how would one gain access to the storage space on some random day weeks after the event?


Thomas Hohe Wed 14 Jul 2021 1:28PM

@Erin Jeavons-Fellows, I am tagging you hoping that you could relay this to the camps. In this first step I am compiling which camp will want to use the storage barn.


Thomas Hohe Thu 15 Jul 2021 6:55AM

That summary definitely helps, thank you. From what I heard from the camps I talked to they simply kept the storage space last time around. Let’s see what happens.


Franziska Singer Sun 18 Jul 2021 9:47AM

We are a new Kinky Kiez with no gear at all, do you know if some of the non-returning Kieze have a central structure for workshops and/or kitchen and/or water cube etc we could take over? Who do I need to talk to? Someone from storage and/or the non-returners? Thank you! @Thomas Hohe @Veroca R. Sala


Erin Jeavons-Fellows Sun 18 Jul 2021 12:06PM

Im pretty sure kb gives us the water cube so no need to locate one of those

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