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New map and quiet/loud zones

W walto Public Seen by 101

Hi folks,

I would like to see if there are any remarks/comments on just using last year's map as a basis? Here is the suggested new map

delineation of quiet/loud zones

the delineation is not very good, we should improve it, there is some overlap etc.

rules around quiet/semi/loud

Should we review this?

current sound rules:
1. Complete Quiet Times all around the Playa 6-11 AM (small bluetooth speaker while eating breakfast doesn't count, the idea is to allow people all around the Burn to sleep and get a break from loud music).

  1. No restriction on Saturday night - Burn night.

  2. Kieze in Semi-loud zones (map is available to view) should be considerate with how loud they are in terms of volume, hours and which days. Would be great to have soundcamps from this zone not busting loud music every day until 6AM. In case of ongoing complaints, Wonderers (Rangers) will step in and ask to lower the volume. In addition, if we have a Sounds Engineers taking ownership of this matter, he can decide a bar and soundcamps would need to not cross that bar (decibels) from let's say 2AM-6AM. Point number 3 can be discussed further, if you have something to add you can agree and still comment about it

New site planning lead needed

yo, who wants to take on the need of "site planning"?

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walto Sun 17 Mar 2019 3:53PM

added the art plateau

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Paulus Thu 21 Mar 2019 2:47PM

I might be up for take a part in the Site Planing logistic

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Paulus Thu 28 Mar 2019 12:28PM

Sure, we three should have a meeting :) I added you on facebook, Hanna!

EJ

Erin Jeavons-Fellows Thu 28 Mar 2019 6:30PM

Is someone able to draw on the map where the free camping is? Some friends are looking to free camp and are unsure of what that means for them. I cant see on the map any allocated spot

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Annette Tue 16 Apr 2019 8:22AM

Last time KBORG cut the power Sunday early morning - and we didn´t know about it. What is the ending time? We would love to have power and music also Sunday at day. It also makes the strike easier - but are there any rules/agreements with Freiland/locals/Ordnungsamt? Volume?

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Roko Mon 29 Apr 2019 1:32PM

hi @all
i will do realize.

@hannamaijahelvi , @joicebiazoto help is greatly appreciated <3 could u send me a message to 017643301709 with the number you will be using on kiez burn? :p then i coordinate this. i am also doing zerzura, so i will be on site from friday on.

@stefanapel are you coming to the kiez picnic on the 1st of may? then you could teach me measurement there. else i will come to your place as soon, as i find some free time.

SD

Sven Dudink Mon 29 Apr 2019 5:37PM

@waldo the power will be delivered on thuesday for now, so a soundcheck could be done either on wednesday morning or thuesday, on the invoice there was no specific time just delivery all day, i asked the power company what time they delivered last year and if they can give a indication for this year

@berlinette the generators will be picked up on monday, if i understand it right we pay our power by running hours, i asked for the price per running hour and than we as a community have to decide if it will be worth the extra money to run the power on sunday daytime aswell as i recall last year we stopped the power on sunday morning

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Annette Fri 3 May 2019 1:50PM

So, apparently it was not a KBORG power issue - we couldnt even play music with a private generator as @rel didnt allow. So, if we have a seperate generator and we want to play music on sunday (considering to be in the sound regulations and see how the last days with the locals worked out). We don´t see a conflict with the general strike. We have a strike lead in our camp and also our members can help strike the general power. I think this is also a bigger topic about how long the event runs on sunday. @waldo @janthomas

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Quentin Mon 3 Jun 2019 1:39PM

Are we using the same concept as last year with Loud/Semi-loud/Quiet zones ?

Musotopia (also with other camps around) are not in any of those zones, based on last year map.
We will have a decent soundsystem and are having a music program until 2AM. If similar rules apply, being on a semi-loud zone would be good for us.
I guess, it depends on other Kiez around, and also the direction of the speakers.
What do you think ?

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Quentin Tue 11 Jun 2019 12:51PM

Ok thanks Waldo.
I am assuming that the zones have been drawn like this last year as there were no camp in those zones.
This year, there are 3/4 camps that don't belong to any zone. I believe this should be updated.
Who is the repsonsible for updating those zones ? @hannamaijahelvi , @roko ?

Thank you :raised_hands:

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